Been out of the audio game for over 10 years!

[GreekPower 10+ year member]

I need brought back up to speed on a few things to say the least

So picked up a former SEMA show car my buddy had, back in the day it did have a stereo and what looks like liquid sound deadener (hard to tell its peeling and flaking).

So step one right now while I have the car gutted is sound deadening the entire car so make it quiet, and make the stereo sound good. The last stereo work I did I used raamat bxt, I liked the product but I keep seeing people talk about rattle trap and gtmat and a few others. Back when I was into stereo's 'sound deadener showdown' was a thing but seems thats no longer a thing

So whats the 'good stuff' people are using now a days to keep their cars quiet? Any thoughts on the rattle trap or gtmat or raamat? If I trusted myself and knew how to properly do it I'd try a liquid product to keep the weight down, but I am clueless so I'd rather not waste a ton of material.

My goals are to get the car done for around 350 or less (its a 1995 acura legend coupe) it should be around 175-200sq ft I'm shooting for 1 layer on the entire car from roof to doors to floor and trunk. Maybe doubling up on floor and trunk.

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[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

gp audio (vendor here) sent me some of there mat last week it's tick as he*l has like foam on top, nice..i get link here it is.. http://gpcaraudio.com/gp-stfu/

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

GtLiquidamp works good, just don't expect it help flex on large surfaces... GTLiquidamp and mat worked great for my doors and smaller panels... and I used a gallon... If your gonna' dig low and loud Ya' cant beat kerfed wood on the roof... sorry to say this... others will disagree for sure but my 2000 watt substage has it's own ideas and I'm gonna' have to do it myself. It's not my finest hour either, I had it all apart recently and I'm just going to have to do it again... I've seen it done on YouTube... We'll see... Anyways $50 gets you a gallon and mat will go from there... Don't spray it, use a brush over your tape... "I just used 4" aluminum"... but Mat is even better... you know what to do from there. Seal those doors and better mids/midbass makes the subs sound better! Panels and floors too... Good luck! There are literally too many products to list nowadays... You can't go wrong with Dynamat!

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Second skin, soundskins, knuconceptz.

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

Second skin, soundskins, knuconceptz.

What he said and many more... They all make spray-on, sticky and otherwise... it's still the same game after all those years... installation is king... plus the new equipment!.. 10K is not all that massive anymore, in 1998 it was a monster... SQ is judged the same but the DSP's level the field a little... I've listened to a World Champ with subs up front and tube amps on the frontstage in 1999 and IDK nowadays... they sound so good anymore... Even time aligned and EQ'ed the placement and deadening seem to really matter the most...

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

What he said and many more... They all make spray-on, sticky and otherwise... it's still the same game after all those years... installation is king... plus the new equipment!.. 10K is not all that massive anymore, in 1998 it was a monster... SQ is judged the same but the DSP's level the field a little... I've demo'ed a World Champ with subs up front in 1999 and IDK nowadays... they sound so good anymore... Even time aligned and EQ'ed the placement and deadening seem to really matter the most...

Yeah it's a different world. Back in the 90s a SQ build was very hard to pull off and the image was huge. Now we can make life sizes faces. Like someone is standing on the hood. You can see Steven Tyler's mouth moving. And it's the size of a mouth.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I need brought back up to speed on a few things to say the least
So picked up a former SEMA show car my buddy had, back in the day it did have a stereo and what looks like liquid sound deadener (hard to tell its peeling and flaking).

So step one right now while I have the car gutted is sound deadening the entire car so make it quiet, and make the stereo sound good. The last stereo work I did I used raamat bxt, I liked the product but I keep seeing people talk about rattle trap and gtmat and a few others. Back when I was into stereo's 'sound deadener showdown' was a thing but seems thats no longer a thing

So whats the 'good stuff' people are using now a days to keep their cars quiet? Any thoughts on the rattle trap or gtmat or raamat? If I trusted myself and knew how to properly do it I'd try a liquid product to keep the weight down, but I am clueless so I'd rather not waste a ton of material.

My goals are to get the car done for around 350 or less (its a 1995 acura legend coupe) it should be around 175-200sq ft I'm shooting for 1 layer on the entire car from roof to doors to floor and trunk. Maybe doubling up on floor and trunk.

sound deadener showdown is still highly rated.

for your budget i'd go with stinger expert roadkill. You dont need complete coverage, you just need to focus on big flat paneled areas that actually has resonance. Bends, curves and solid metal spots dont need any deadner.

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

That's a big thumbs-up! Try it with tube amps... add a little sustain and that soundstage gets REAL deep... only I'd known the subs were up front I wouldn't have looked like a fool tryin' to locate them....

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

sound deadener showdown is still highly rated.
for your budget i'd go with stinger expert roadkill. You dont need complete coverage, you just need to focus on big flat paneled areas that actually has resonance. Bends, curves and solid metal spots dont need any deadner.

Sorry off subject again... Good advice above...

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

For your budget I'd do soundskins. It's deadener and foam in one. It's like focals BAM which is highly regarded.

 

[shredder1 10+ year member]

My advice has been surpassed by the pro's here...

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

More than one way to skin a cat. There's plenty of products these days that are essentially the same thing, about the only common theme is to stay away from asphalt based stuff....though that's all dynamat was in the old days.

Different products do different things too and a book could be published on the subject. MLV (mass loaded vinyl) and CCF (closed cell foam) also have their place.