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[ThxOne Premium Member]

And?
While interesting reading, that doesn't prove your belief that the COTUS and SCOTUS are wrong.

Do you really think repeating the same lie over and over makes it true? For the 4th time. I don't think either are wrong. Stop being a liberal **** boy.

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

Oh? It seems that industries have been unable to fill the positions vacated when people are deported.
Where are all the Americans lining up to fill those jobs?

Yeah cause we all know how fast these industries are posting that they have job openings for illegal immigrant wages.

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"with those jobs being almost impossible to replace"
Huh.

Damn, doesn't your head hurt?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Do you really think repeating the same lie over and over makes it true? For the 4th time. I don't think either are wrong. Stop being a liberal **** boy.

OK. So you agree that the COTUS extends protection of rights to all people on our soil, and that this has been affirmed by the SCOTUS?

Please verify, as you previously claimed the opposite.

Yeah cause we all know how fast these industries are posting that they have job openings for illegal immigrant wages.

Ohhh, so now the wages are too low for Americans to be bothered with.
But, but, but "Dere terkin ur jobs!!!!"

Were you under the impression that housekeepers and cabbage pickers make $30 an hour?
Surprise, they don't.

Damn, doesn't your head hurt?

No. Critical thinking is quite easy for me.
You should try it sometime. You might get over the pain you experience.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

OK. So you agree that the COTUS extends protection of rights to all people on our soil, and that this has been affirmed by the SCOTUS?

Please verify, as you previously claimed the opposite.

No can do. You have yet to prove I said they are wrong.

Ohhh, so now the wages are too low for Americans to be bothered with.
But, but, but "Dere terkin ur jobs!!!!"

You think Americans are going to work for what people pay illegal immigrants LOLOL

Were you under the impression that housekeepers and cabbage pickers make $30 an hour?
Surprise, they don't.

Seriously. Wake the hell up.

No. Critical thinking is quite easy for me.
You should try it sometime. You might get over the pain you experience.

Then why, WHY do you refuse to do it?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Housekeepers and cabbage pickers... a bit racially stereotypical don't you think Rob?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No can do. You have yet to prove I said they are wrong.

You've argued it over a dozen or more posts. I'm not going to quote every single one.
"You think that a person can break our laws, enter this country by violating our laws and they get the convenience of due process???" -Thxone

You think Americans are going to work for what people pay illegal immigrants LOLOL

Ahhhh, so "they're taking our jobs" is bullshit, since no American wants to work that hard for that level of pay.
Got it.

Seriously. Wake the hell up.

Been awake for over 8 hours. how about you?

Then why, WHY do you refuse to do it?

Says the guy who thinks the COTUS only protects the rights of US Citizens.

Housekeepers and cabbage pickers... a bit racially stereotypical don't you think Rob?

You DO realize what kinds of jobs the immigrants do for the hotel and farming industries, yes?
Were you under the impression they were CEOs, CFOs, in-house legal counsel?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

He has declared the COTUS only protects the rights of American Citizens. The COTUS wording and the hearing decisions of the SCTOUS say otherwise.

If he insists he is correct, then he is by default saying the COTUS is wrong and the decisions of the SCOTUS are wrong.

The COTUS says what it says. As I said there can be different opinions of how the document should be interpretted; the 2nd amendment is a great example. I too think it's referring to citizens. For example, we treated Indians differently, we treated Mexicans differently after the Mex/US war, etc.

Furthermore, everybody thinks the decisions of the SCOTUS are wrong. Most recently, tons of people (probably a majority) disagree with overturning Roe v Wade. And previous to RvW getting overturned, a bunch of people thought RvW wS wrong.

You really need to back off this uncontrolled need to be right. It has you justifying bad behavior from your side, attributing positions, twisting logic, distorting reality, etc. You can't even get over the fact that "Sleepy Joe" wasn't literal.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Housekeepers and cabbage pickers... a bit racially stereotypical don't you think Rob?

Robolib better be careful or he'll get cancelled.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

And?
While interesting reading, that doesn't prove your belief that the COTUS and SCOTUS are wrong.

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

Oh? It seems that industries have been unable to fill the positions vacated when people are deported.
Where are all the Americans lining up to fill those jobs?

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"with those jobs being almost impossible to replace"
Huh.

As a person who spends alot of time in hotels, the majority of the staff SEEM to be citizens. Hypothetically, none of them should be illegals.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The COTUS says what it says. As I said there can be different opinions of how the document should be interpretted; the 2nd amendment is a great example. I too think it's referring to citizens. For example, we treated Indians differently, we treated Mexicans differently after the Mex/US war, etc.

Furthermore, everybody thinks the decisions of the SCOTUS are wrong. Most recently, tons of people (probably a majority) disagree with overturning Roe v Wade. And previous to RvW getting overturned, a bunch of people thought RvW wS wrong.

Would you agree that no matter what anyone thinks, feels, believes, opines, wishes, hopes, desires, the decisions of the SCOTUS remain in effect and have not been overturned? That those decisions get followed (like Roe v Wade was) until the decision is overturned?

Or, do you think that peoples' feelings, beliefs, opinions, wishes, hopes, desires, are what create the reality?

You really need to back off this uncontrolled need to be right. It has you justifying bad behavior from your side, attributing positions, twisting logic, distorting reality, etc. You can't even get over the fact that "Sleepy Joe" wasn't literal.

Interesting that you think I need to back off on proving myself right when stuff is debated here, but seem to have no problem with Thxone wanting to "fight to the death" (a metaphor, though he has actually offered violence more than once) to claim he is right, even in the face of indefatigable proof that he is wrong.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Robolib better be careful or he'll get cancelled.

The USDL estimates as much as 48% of the farm labor force is undocumented people.
But yeah, they're probably all the upper management...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Do you really think repeating the same lie over and over makes it true? For the 4th time. I don't think either are wrong. Stop being a liberal **** boy.

Yeah cause we all know how fast these industries are posting that they have job openings for illegal immigrant wages.

Damn, doesn't your head hurt?

Clearly you think the COTUS is wrong, just like you were being literal when posting Sleepy Joe.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

decisions of the SCOTUS

Are not law...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The USDL estimates as much as 48% of the farm labor force is undocumented people.
But yeah, they're probably all the upper management...

Great. Isn't there a program for seasonal workers - there was. Biden should have focused on fixing the system rather than breaking it further.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Clearly you think the COTUS is wrong, just like you were being literal when posting Sleepy Joe.

What is a "person", as defined by US law?

And would you be so kind as to explain what Trump meant when he first said Biden was “a sleepy guy in the basement of a house”?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Great. Isn't there a program for seasonal workers - there was. Biden should have focused on fixing the system rather than breaking it further.

You mean TRUMP should have focused on fixing it. He was in office before Joe, yes?