Current events discussion

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yet more deflection.

Show us the amendment you effected.
Show us the SCOTUS cases you got overturned.

Show us how illegals on our soil do not have the protected right of due process.

Trump is not the answer. Obama is not the answer. Biden is not the answer.
AI cannot give you the answer. This is all on you to prove your belief that illegals on our soil do not have protected rights.

Ok, show me where I said exactly (literally) that "illegals on our soil do not have protected rights."

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

No paraphrasing, no assumptions, no insinuations... none of your spins. Show me exactly (literally) what I said.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

OK so you can't.
Got it.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The point is, we should not be rewarding those who break our laws to be in this country. Trump is not breaking or violating ANY laws by having illegals arrested and detained so that they can enjoy the privilege of due process before they get booted back to whatever 3rd world country they came from.

Goodnight Robbie.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

OK so you can't.
Got it.

Frog in your pocket again?

"Listen to how ignorant you sound. Applies to people on our soil. OUR SOIL. If the criminal migrant is not on our soil unless he breaks our laws to be on our soil how the **** do you justify rewarding them with the rights of AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!! Do it!! Justify that for me right ******* now!"
"Again, listen to how IGNORANT you sound. It's the law of our land that you, a criminal migrant can break our countries laws and you will be rewarded for it."
"Yes it does. They are called illegal immigrants for a reason. They should not be here in the first place. They broke our laws to get here. The COTUS does NOT say we should reward criminals.-Thxone

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Frog in your pocket again?

"Listen to how ignorant you sound. Applies to people on our soil. OUR SOIL. If the criminal migrant is not on our soil unless he breaks our laws to be on our soil how the **** do you justify rewarding them with the rights of AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!! Do it!! Justify that for me right ******* now!"
"Again, listen to how IGNORANT you sound. It's the law of our land that you, a criminal migrant can break our countries laws and you will be rewarded for it."
"Yes it does. They are called illegal immigrants for a reason. They should not be here in the first place. They broke our laws to get here. The COTUS does NOT say we should reward criminals.-Thxone

Nope, no good, you failed big time there.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The point is, we should not be rewarding those who break our laws to be in this country. Trump is not breaking or violating ANY laws by having illegals arrested and detained so that they can enjoy the privilege of due process before they get booted back to whatever 3rd world country they came from.

Goodnight Robbie.

The COTUS, the SCOTUS, state statutes, all say you are wrong.
Sorry, your beliefs don't supercede all of them.

Later.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The COTUS, the SCOTUS, state statutes, all say you are wrong.
Sorry, your beliefs don't supercede all of them.

Later.

When I wake up I expect to see where the COTUS and SCOTUS say I am wrong in my OPINION that criminal imigrants should not be rewarded for breaking our laws.

This should be interesting.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I didn't say that. My stance has and always will be that anyone committing crimes should face the punishment. There's plenty of people peacefully protesting.....as is their right. Anyone damaging property and/or looting undermine the goal of protesting and deserve to be arrested.

Then we agree on how rioters should be treated.

Were there a lot of BLM rioters that were pardoned or let off the hook or something? Thing is.....you need evidence of law breaking to charge someone. The big difference between the two is that January 6th had cameras EVERYWHERE. I mean.....Trump literally held a rally before sending his people to march on the capitol. The news organizations were already there and covering it when it occurred. Even Trump was watching the play-by-play breakdown of the riot while sitting on his hands.....doing nothing about it.

Look up what happened to the BLM rioters; blue city DAs & judges often went easy on them. Judges and prosecutors droped the hammer on J6 rioters.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

There were some 14,000 arrests in connection with riots stemming from the Floyd homicide.

Considering nearly every single person in J6 was on camera and only a few hundred got arrested, then later pardoned and potentially lookig at getting paid for their time, it sure seems Team Right was not aggressive AT ALL.

Totally off. ~1600 arrests for j6, ~1200 convictions. Team Blue was in charge of going after both BLM & J6 rioters, they went light on BLM rioters & hammered J6ers. I never supported the blanket pardons, especially of those who were convicted of more serious charges.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You spend a lot of time typing to show us how little you know or understand, you know that?

The Constitution applies to people on our soil. It protects the right of due process for all people on our soil.
Did you notice how the 9/11 terrorists got trials, and not just killed for their action?

Do you think that Trump should pick and choose whose rights the COTUS protects? Maybe he decides tomorrow it only protects Catholics, and decides to round up all Jews and jail them. Sound fair to you?
Maybe he decides it doesn't protect people born in Ohio, and rounds up all who are from Ohio, and jails them.

Good idea to give him such power?

Is there court case or clause in the COTUS that says non citizen criminals have the same rights as US citizens?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You think that a person can break our laws, enter this country by violating our laws and they get the convenience of due process??? So I guess you have to be cool with a ****** entering your granny's house (breaking the law literally), poking her against her will (breaking the law literally) should get to leave that house and await due process?

They don't just want to give them due process, they're giving them housing, food, medicare/aid. Meanwhile, Mexican protesters are in Cali claiming they have the right to be here because Cali (and much of the Western United States) was part of Mexico prior to Mexico losing the Mexican American war. What logic - to the loser goes the spoils. By that logic, will Mexico return its lands Spain and/or the Native Americans?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

They're not being deprived of life, liberty or property. They're being deported. Furthermore, its not the States doing it, it's the Fed.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yes it does. They are called illegal immigrants for a reason. They should not be here in the first place. They broke our laws to get here. The COTUS does NOT say we should reward criminals.

Agreed. I stil don't see where the Federal gov't is forbidden to deport illegals.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Ibid.; Mezei, supra, at 212 ("[A]liens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law"

And they can be detained while doing so.

Yeah, but did you try that case? Rob asked specifically for cases you tried.

On a side note, can you provide the link in the future? It's simple enough to google it from a desktop, but it's a PITA when i'm on my phone. Thx