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[RobGMN Premium Member]

God Dammit RobGMN, stop Googling your response!! If you know the answer then say it. If not, just say you have to Google for an answer to give.

Hmmm, YOU are the one who tried to use AI to say Kamala should not have been able to run, and you failed miserably.
Then you claim with was unethical and immoral, but can't support you claim.

And then you shoot for "lies, deception, false promises", which you also can't seem to support with any facts.
Stop making shit up as you go, and try to base some of your babble in reality.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Sure. Since you claim my opinions are a failure of some kind, explain how she was good to go for the Presidency of these United States.

I already did.
Is your caretaker not there to explain things to you, or did you need pictures?

It went something like this:

Wrong, *****!

She announced she was running in JULY of 2024. That is the summer of 2024. Intentions to run are made in the spring. Show me where she registered IN THE SPRING of 2024 with the Federal Election Commission. Show me where in the spring of 2024 she announced her intentions to run for president. Show me in the summer of the year before and up through the spring of the elections year where the primary and caucus debates for Kamala took place. Presidential primaries and caucuses?

Like I said, she should not even have been in the mix.

Look at you, trying to be all Jesse Pinkman tough. How cute!

The FEC regards laws on campaign finance, not deadlines to run, not COTUS requirements, etc.
A candidate must file within 15 days of triggering their candidacy. She filed on July 21st, which is WELL within 15 days of July 21st (when they changed the committee name from Biden to Harris).
So, your FEC reference is wrong.

Biden was the presumptive nominee; he was never chosen by the delegates.
And, multiple Supreme Court decisions affirm that the parties have the constitutional right to choose their own delegates: Democratic Party of United States v. Wisconsin ex rel. La Follette and California Democratic Party v. Jones. The party did so.
So, your belief that the party could not choose her instead of Biden is wrong.

The DNC (where the candidate is officially chosen) often doesn't even happen until late-July mid-August (sometimes even September), but you think the delegate is always selected in the "spring"? Hell, in 2020, the RNC was August 24-27.
Do you know that late July to September are not considered "spring" in the United States?
So, your claim that she missed a "spring" deadline is wrong.

I know you have a major sense of entitlement, but you don't get to decide how the political parties choose their candidates.

Dare I say, "you got it all wrong, *****!" ?
lol

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Hmmm, YOU are the one who tried to use AI to say Kamala should not have been able to run, and you failed miserably.
Then you claim with was unethical and immoral, but can't support you claim.

And then you shoot for "lies, deception, false promises", which you also can't seem to support with any facts.
Stop making shit up as you go, and try to base some or your babble in reality.

I used the Google AI because it summed up what the Government websites said.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I already did.
Is your caretaker not there to explain things to you, or did you need pictures?

It went something like this:

Look at you, trying to be all Jesse Pinkman tough. How cute!

The FEC regards laws on campaign finance, not deadlines to run, not COTUS requirements, etc.
A candidate must file within 15 days of triggering their candidacy. She filed on July 21st, which is WELL within 15 days of July 21st (when they changed the committee name from Biden to Harris).
So, your FEC reference is wrong.

Biden was the presumptive nominee; he was never chosen by the delegates.
And, multiple Supreme Court decisions affirm that the parties have the constitutional right to choose their own delegates: Democratic Party of United States v. Wisconsin ex rel. La Follette and California Democratic Party v. Jones. The party did so.
So, your belief that the party could not choose her instead of Biden is wrong.

The DNC (where the candidate is officially chosen) often doesn't even happen until late-July mid-August (sometimes even September), but you think the delegate is always selected in the "spring"? Hell, in 2020, the RNC was August 24-27.
Do you know that late July to September are not considered "spring" in the United States?
So, your claim that she missed a "spring" deadline is wrong.

I know you have a major sense of entitlement, but you don't get to decide how the political parties choose their candidates.

Dare I say, "you got it all wrong, *****!" ?
lol

So you think you can filter everything down to the COTUS? Really? You think it covers everything?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I used the Google AI because it summed up what the Government websites said.

And despite AI being proved wrong so many times already, you just accept it as truth, BECAUSE THEY TOLD YOU TO.
Thxone: Do boy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you think you can filter everything down to the COTUS? Really? You think it covers everything?

You fail spectacularly.

You were wrong about the COTUS.
You were wrong about the FEC.
You were wrong about when a candidate is selected.

Those were your three platforms of argument, and you were wrong on all three.
So you shot for ethics and morals, but showed nothing was immoral or unethical.

Then, you tried for lies, deception, false promises.
And offer nothing to support THAT either.

So it all boils down to you making shit up yet again.
Pathetic.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You're jumping ahead. You failed in your first attempts to claim Kamala should not have been allowed to run, and then have not spoken to the follow-up of how Kamala's candidacy was immoral or unethical.

Can you speak to those things before we drill down on the "lies, deception, false promises"?

Isn't the argument that Kamala should have gone thru the normal nomination process? Obviously, they would have to condense it, but it was just handed to Kamala.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Like when a Federal Judge has to order Republicans to release information that is supposed to be public knowledge?
Like the "party of law and order" trying to effect a coup of our own government?
Like the POTUS violating court order, Federal Law, state statute, and the COTUS regularly?

THAT kind of irony?

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Another perfect example of what I've been saying about the how the legal system is being used. It's illegal for DOGE not to fully disclose their findings, but it was perfectly acceptable for these departments, NGOs, etc to operate in secrecy. Funny how that works.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You fail spectacularly.

You were wrong about the COTUS.
You were wrong about the FEC.
You were wrong about when a candidate is selected.

Those were your three platforms of argument, and you were wrong on all three.
So you shot for ethics and morals, but showed nothing was immoral or unethical.

Then, you tried for lies, deception, false promises.
And offer nothing to support THAT either.

So it all boils down to you making shit up yet again.
Pathetic.

I have been entertaining myself by reading the COTUS. Rob, can you point out where it says specifically that anyone can just be inserted to run for the presidency when the person currently running decides to withdraw?

Show me please where that is in the COTUS. I can't seem to locate that information in my readings.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I know if I am running a race on foot against one other person and that person drops out, I win. There is no the other team gets to drop in a fresh runner and declare it legal.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I have been entertaining myself by reading the COTUS. Rob, can you point out where it says specifically that anyone can just be inserted to run for the presidency when the person currently running decides to withdraw?

Show me please where that is in the COTUS. I can't seem to locate that information in my readings.

Two things stand out to me about Kamala getting "auto nominated."

1) Did they intentionally run (not literally) Sleepy Joe with the intent of replacing him with Kamala when he inevitably faltered? There are lots of advantages to that approach - less time in the limelight for Kamala, Kamala doesn't have to expend cash fighting for the nomination, Kamala avoids potential gaffs in debates, Kamala gets all the campaign funds instead of some of going to other potential candidates, etc. As a matter of fact, I'd say (if this was intentional), that it was very advantageous to Kamala and I don't really see any downside. Assuming it was intentional, I have to say it was a brilliant strategy.

2) What would Team Blue be saying if, for example, the GOP pulled something like this to candidate swap Cheney in for Bush.v2 at the last minute? Would they have said "that's constitutional" or would they have called it a "Constitutional Crisis?"

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I know if I am running a race on foot against one other person and that person drops out, I win. There is no the other team gets to drop in a fresh runner and declare it legal.

Based on that analogy, I have to say I'm glad the DNC put in their back up QB (not literally). Can you imagine the heck the left would be raising if Trump won by default? Getting crushed in the elections has some of the lefties looking at themselves and realizing there are serious problems with their platform.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Based on that analogy, I have to say I'm glad the DNC put in their back up QB (not literally). Can you imagine the heck the left would be raising if Trump won by default? Getting crushed in the elections has some of the lefties looking at themselves and realizing there are serious problems with their platform.

I think they said let's run Joe against him and see if we have to fake another "81M" votes again and if it looks like we would have to, let's swap in Kamala and pander to the women and blacks of America. Figuratively speaking.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I think they said let's run Joe against him and see if we have to fake another "81M" votes again and if it looks like we would have to, let's swap in Kamala and pander to the women and blacks of America. Figuratively speaking.

Biden was never the actual candidate...everyone in the "circle" knew it was just when kamala would be top of the ticket

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Biden was never the actual candidate...everyone in the "circle" knew it was just when kamala would be top of the ticket

All the liberal lies, deceptions, misdirection's that Rob never sees with his wide open eyes.