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[Jimi77 Premium Member]

YOU claimed that I distilled Thx's words down to mean something they did not.
His statement was very clear. Since you were helping him out, i asked YOU what his statement meant, if it did no mean the very words that were in it.

If hw was not trying to say that paying import tariffs would offset the money people lost in the market dump, what DID he mean?

I was heading you off at the pass. It seems to be a common thing here to avoid placing blame on Trump for things he is irrefutably responsible for.

It's interesting how every time something bad is pointed out about Trump, it's "liberals and their TDS".

Trump violates the COTUS: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump violates a court order: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump commits 34 felonies: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump rapes a woman: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump admits to being a ****** predator: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump partners with Communist Russia and tries to get Ukraine to be taken over again by Russia: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump attempts trickle-down that has never worked before, and fails: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump attempts ridiculous tariffs that failed the last time he tried, and he fails again: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump's tariff announcement casue the market to drop precipitously, costing Americans TRILLIONS of dollars: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump puts Musk in charge of DOGE, and they spend $135 billion to lose the country $300 billion over time: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump "cuts waste and abuse" while spending multiple dozens of millions playing golf: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump pardons every scumbag who took part in the insurrection at the Capitol, then suggests paying them all for their lost time: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump hosts business meetings at the White House to further his personal business interests in the international golf world: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump charges the government to house the Secret Service staff that stay at his own "house" in Florida every weekend: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump signs an executive order violating the 14th Amendment: "Liberals and their TDS"
Trump signs executive order to violate the 5th Amendment: "Liberals and their TDS"

Man, that TDS sure causes Trump to do a LOT of fucked up shit, huh?

No, TDS doesn't cause Trump to do "fucked up shit." TDS causes libs to lose your minds everytime Trump does anything.

Now you're "heading me off at the pass." When have I ever said Trump didn't do something he actually did? You're just looking for excuses to create your own version of reality; either you're putting words in people's mouths or now you're just heading me off at the pass. We get it, you think you have a really cool gotcha question. The problem is nobody here thinks making you pay more for goods will fix the economy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Ok, since you have made this statement twice now I think it is safe to say continuing the conversation would be like talking to a brick wall. I will move on.

No, TRUMP made the statement. The White House posted it on the White House website.

A few cents more? No, it was up to a couple dollars more. Man you really love downplaying the lefts **** ups.

If you completely disregard wage increases and other factors, sure.
But determining real pricing means you include other data.
It's precisely why a $45,000 car today is cheaper than a $15,000 car in 1968. or, do you think $45K in todays money is more than $15K in 1968 money?

Listen, pick the needle up off the broken record. It's not just about tariffs. Drugs and open borders. Being fair meaning those countries handle their business and secure their borders.

Got it. You knwo more than the White House on why these tariffs were enacted.
They posted that fact sheet just to make you look ill-informed.
Got it.

Out of site out of mind huh. You lefty's just outright ignore shit huh. Chopped up and edited news videos are just fine for you aren't they.

Vodka, or beer today?
That info is directly from the Whote House website. It is all the bullet points on Trump's idiotic tariff plan. You can read the "chopped up and edited news videos" on the White House website here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-she...trengthen-our-national-and-economic-security/

But I hate to inform you: There are no pictures or movies. You'll actually have to read WORDS. Words like this:

And so on.

Over 3,000lbs total. The total is what matters.

Not if you're going to claim someone "lied" to me when I metioned how small the amount coming through Canada is. It's well under 1%.
16/3160 = /.005

Are we going to talk about the illicit stuff being shipped OUT of the US, like the 2.5 TONS of fentanyl precursors the CPB found being shipped TO Mexico? Or, is that OK becue it's going to other countries?

Anything to argue.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No, TDS doesn't cause Trump to do "fucked up shit." TDS causes libs to lose your minds everytime Trump does anything.

So, it's TDS to hold Trump responsible when he does fucked up shit, which is something pretty much every day.

We should just let it slide or else we are full of "TDS" and "orange man bad", while Trump is still scremaing about military tribunals for Obama, and ranting ENDLESSLY about a "stolen election" that never ******* happened?

Tell me why that makes sense to you.
Maybe if he didn't act like a ******* idiot every waking moment of every day, the left wouldn't be ABLE to call him out for his stupidity.

Now you're "heading me off at the pass." When have I ever said Trump didn't do something he actually did?

Aten't you the guy who multiple times ascribed the market tanking on the day Trump announced the tariffs as a natural "market correction", in contradiction to pretty much every analyst and stock market expert in the world?

I asked you to find me one analyst or expert who said the rapid declin was NOT due to Trump.
You never did.

You're just looking for excuses to create your own version of reality; either you're putting words in people's mouths or now you're just heading me off at the pass. We get it, you think you have a really cool gotcha question. The problem is nobody here thinks making you pay more for goods will fix the economy.

If Thxone doesn't think it, then it's really odd for him to have posted it.
Maybe it was more of his special brand of "sarcasm" that only seems to come out when he says something that shows he has no clue ehat he is talking about?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Vodka, or beer today?

Back to insulting again?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

If Thxone doesn't think it, then it's really odd for him to have posted it.
Maybe it was more of his special brand of "sarcasm" that only seems to come out when he says something that shows he has no clue ehat he is talking about?

Weird how you are the only person who didn't understand.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Weird how you are the only person who didn't understand.

Weird how you can't provide an explanation that says the words mean something other than an idea that paying tariffs will make up for money lost in the markets.

"Do you know how fast that can be made back if everyone we are dealing with regarding tariffs plays FAIR?" - Thxone.

So, if you didn't mean the words you typed, what DID you mean?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Weird how you can't provide an explanation that says the words mean something other than an idea that paying tariffs will make up for money lost in the markets.

"Do you know how fast that can be made back if everyone we are dealing with regarding tariffs plays FAIR?" - Thxone.

So, if you didn't mean the words you typed, what DID you mean?

The sad part is, TWO people have told you that your interpretation IS NOT WHAT I MEANT. So being the person you are you refuse to say, Hey Thx, I clearly have no clue what you meant. Could you clear it up for me? To which I would. But you want to be you and assume you know better than my what I meant when I made the statement.

When you ask the question right I will be happy to attempt to make it more clear for you. I meant what I typed, you are the one who thinks it means something else. That means you are in the wrong here. You also went from claiming I said we should pay higher tariffs to saying paying tariffs will make up for money lost. You are a hoot.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

So, it's TDS to hold Trump responsible when he does fucked up shit, which is something pretty much every day.

We should just let it slide or else we are full of "TDS" and "orange man bad", while Trump is still scremaing about military tribunals for Obama, and ranting ENDLESSLY about a "stolen election" that never ******* happened?

Tell me why that makes sense to you.
Maybe if he didn't act like a ******* idiot every waking moment of every day, the left wouldn't be ABLE to call him out for his stupidity.

Call him out all you want, but lets put things in their proper perspective. Obama deported more people, yet libs weren't doing any and everything the could to stop deportation, including a Congress critter assaulting an ICE agent.

Aten't you the guy who multiple times ascribed the market tanking on the day Trump announced the tariffs as a natural "market correction", in contradiction to pretty much every analyst and stock market expert in the world?

Have I ever denied the tariffs triggered the market correction? Again twisting my words to suit your needs. The S&P500 was and still is wildly over valued, that's why it corrected it so hard. Lets keep in mind "every expert" was telling us you couldn't lose throwing money at the Nasdaq in early 2000 and were telling us April 2000 was a buying opportunity. Let's keep in mind the experts were telling us mortgage companies and investment banks were healthy right up until the day Lehman Brother's filed for BK. Your hypothetical expert money manager was dumping stock last month rather than proactively taking up defensive positions when the PE ratios of the stock market are at ridiculously historic highs. The experts have lead the sheep to the slaughter over and over.

I asked you to find me one analyst or expert who said the rapid declin was NOT due to Trump.
You never did.

See above.

If Thxone doesn't think it, then it's really odd for him to have posted it.
Maybe it was more of his special brand of "sarcasm" that only seems to come out when he says something that shows he has no clue ehat he is talking about?

Show me where Thx has said making you pay for goods is going to replace the money that Trump lost, which has already been replaced anyway? He never said it. You just distilling things said on here into singular "gotchas." That works for Rachel Maddow because he has willingly delusional audience of sheeple that won't push back.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The sad part is, TWO people have told you that your interpretation IS NOT WHAT I MEANT. So being the person you are you refuse to say, Hey Thx, I clearly have no clue what you meant. Could you clear it up for me? To which I would. But you want to be you and assume you know better than my what I meant when I made the statement.

When you ask the question right I will be happy to attempt to make it more clear for you. I meant what I typed, you are the one who thinks it means something else. That means you are in the wrong here. You also went from claiming I said we should pay higher tariffs to saying paying tariffs will make up for money lost. You are a hoot.

Obviously, what it comes down to is "Rob paying more for goods" isn't going to fix the economy or the stock market, so if you said something that stupid it would be clearly indefensible and he could bash you for saying it. Just like if I actually denied that Trump's tariffs triggered a market correction, then he could bash me for a stupid statement. Maybe the other facts surrounding tariffs or a market correction are either beyond Rob's perception or comprehension; it could be that TDS is blinding him to anything beyond his narrow view of the world. Either that or he's purposely ignoring the other factors in his never ending quest to be right.

If we ignore any and all factors affecting stock prices and distill it down to Trump announced tariffs, then Trump is indeed a Bad Orange Man. If we ignore the fact that the market recovered rather quickly, then we can blame the Bad Orange Man for costing Americans trillions of dollars. That works on MSNBC, CBS, etc, but it's rather ridiculous to expect that level of delusion on an interactive website with people of varying political backgrounds.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Weird how you are the only person who didn't understand.

Maybe he just assumes that anybody that disagrees with him is stupid enough to believe the ideas he attributes to them.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Maybe he just assumes that anybody that disagrees with him is stupid enough to believe the ideas he attributes to them.

I asked him and he did say a long time ago that his goal here is to argue.

He specifically asked me for a schematic of a bridged mono amplifier. I provided it and it is factually a bridged mono amp. The schematic shows how they achieve such a thing. Rob still argued it and I knew he would. That is why when he demands proof I'd rather tell him to go **** an egg. He waste peoples time and YOU are wrong no matter how right you are.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Call him out all you want, but lets put things in their proper perspective. Obama deported more people, yet libs weren't doing any and everything the could to stop deportation, including a Congress critter assaulting an ICE agent.

You've repeated this half a dozen times or more, but leave out the PERSPECTIVE that Obama did it legally.
Are you of the opinion that Trump doing something illegally is OK, if someone else did it LEGALLY?

What is it about Trump that doing things ILLEGALLY is supposed to be ignored or forgiven?
Are we supposed to let him constantly violate law, or else be labeled as "TDS"?

Have I ever denied the tariffs triggered the market correction? Again twisting my words to suit your needs. The S&P500 was and still is wildly over valued, that's why it corrected it so hard. Lets keep in mind "every expert" was telling us you couldn't lose throwing money at the Nasdaq in early 2000 and were telling us April 2000 was a buying opportunity. Let's keep in mind the experts were telling us mortgage companies and investment banks were healthy right up until the day Lehman Brother's filed for BK. Your hypothetical expert money manager was dumping stock last month rather than proactively taking up defensive positions when the PE ratios of the stock market are at ridiculously historic highs. The experts have lead the sheep to the slaughter over and over.

You said multiple times that it was just a "market correction" and not a result of Trump's tariff announcement.

I posited that no financial analyst or market expert has said that the announcement did NOT cause the tumble, and asked you to provide evidence of one who HAS. You have yet to provide that.
So, I'll accept the expert opinions over your claim.

See above.

Show me where Thx has said making you pay for goods is going to replace the money that Trump lost, which has already been replaced anyway? He never said it. You just distilling things said on here into singular "gotchas." That works for Rachel Maddow because he has willingly delusional audience of sheeple that won't push back.

An import tariff is tacked onto goods being IMPORTED into the country. Goods that we BUY in the country. An increase in COGS = and increase in retail price.

Txh very clearly stated that the tariffs would make up for the money lost in the stock market, and I quoted him multiple times. Neither you nor he could provide different meanings for the claim or the words therein.
"Do you know how fast that can be made back if everyone we are dealing with regarding tariffs plays FAIR?" - Thxone.

How does me paying for tariffs recoup the money lost when the market fell?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I asked him and he did say a long time ago that his goal here is to argue.

He specifically asked me for a schematic of a bridged mono amplifier. I provided it and it is factually a bridged mono amp. The schematic shows how they achieve such a thing. Rob still argued it and I knew he would. That is why when he demands proof I'd rather tell him to go **** an egg. He waste peoples time and YOU are wrong no matter how right you are.

Repetition of a lie doesn't make a truth.
You provided a diagram/schematic of TWO mono amps, bridged.
You did not provide a diagram/schematic of A mono amplifier, bridged. Nor will you ever.
You also failed to provide a diagram to show a BRANDED mono car amplifier being bridged to make more power.

Show me a diagram of A mono amplifier that is bridged to make more power. A as in ONE, as I have asked for all along.
Show me a diagram of A branded mono car amplifier that is bridged to make more power.

Without that, you are blowing smoke up your own ***.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

The sad part is, TWO people have told you that your interpretation IS NOT WHAT I MEANT. So being the person you are you refuse to say, Hey Thx, I clearly have no clue what you meant. Could you clear it up for me? To which I would. But you want to be you and assume you know better than my what I meant when I made the statement.

When you ask the question right I will be happy to attempt to make it more clear for you. I meant what I typed, you are the one who thinks it means something else. That means you are in the wrong here. You also went from claiming I said we should pay higher tariffs to saying paying tariffs will make up for money lost. You are a hoot.

My "interpretation? It's ONE sentence where you say tariffs will offset the money lost in the market fall.
What is YOUR interpretation of that sentence? I've asked you AND Jimi at least TWICE now to clarify what it means, if you didn;t mean to describe market loses or use the word "tariff", but you seemingly cannot.

So...WHAT WERE YOU ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT, IF NOT THE MARKET LOSSES AND TARIFFS BEING PAID?

"Do you know how fast that can be made back if everyone we are dealing with regarding tariffs plays FAIR?" - Thxone.
What is the "that", if not the market losses we were discussing?
What is "tariffs" if not the import tariffs that Trump announced on April 8th?

The only two subjects of the sentence that I can see.
And they were NOT what you were talking about?.
Then what WERE you talking about?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Pointing out when trump violates law is "TDS", but THIS shit is normal?
WTF?!?