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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Instead of listing things and then asking non rail workers.... ask THEM what Biden could do. The railroad workers are pretty clear with their grievances.

You didn't even list the point system for attendance which is one of the major issues. Getting rid of that would be job #1

The point system is used to ensure workers show up for an essential industry that runs 24/7, and to allow for discipline when they don’t play by the rules.
It’s a system the workers agreed to as part of their contract through collective bargaining.

That said, you have stated that Biden could screw this up. What would be a “screwup”? Would it be bowing to all of their demands?
Would it be bowing to none?
Would it be bowing to specific ones but not others?

What would be a “screwup” and what would be a “success” for Biden regarding this round of negotiations?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Instead of listing things and then asking non rail workers.... ask THEM what Biden could do. The railroad workers are pretty clear with their grievances.

You didn't even list the point system for attendance which is one of the major issues. Getting rid of that would be job #1

The issue isn't the point system. The point system was necessitated by a 29% reduction in the workforce, which in turn means the railroads can't afford to have somebody call in sick or with some other family matter, so they have to be "nazis" about anybody taking unscheduled time off. This is a common problem in many industries.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

If I tell you I will not finish work for you unless you give me two large pizzas, $5 more dollars per hour and I want my gas paid for and you come at me with $2 more per hour over the next 2 years, a chicken sandwich and 1 day off without repercussions I am going to tell you to shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

So you're saying Biden has to meet the Union's demands?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The point system IS an issue... because it's listed in their grievances. Life happens and to tell your employees that they will be punished if they put their lives first is bullshit. If it is a necessary business then hire more fucking people.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Gas below $3/gal. Guess OPEC+ and US oil companies knew what they were doing by no increasing output.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you're saying Biden has to meet the Union's demands?

Listen RobGMN... I did not say that so your question is pointless. I said if the resolution falls on Biden then he better not fuck it up.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The point system IS an issue... because it's listed in their grievances. Life happens and to tell your employees that they will be punished if they put their lives first is bullshit. If it is a necessary business then hire more fucking people.

But that affects profits and drives up the cost of goods. Inflation is bad. Are you suggesting Biden force the railroads to hire more people? Is that a power that the POTUS possesses?

The more I read from right wingers, the more it seems like they would prefer a command economy and massive increase in gov't power.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

But that affects profits and drives up the cost of goods. Inflation is bad. Are you suggesting Biden force the railroads to hire more people? Is that a power that the POTUS possesses?

The more I read from right wingers, the more it seems like they would prefer a command economy and massive increase in gov't power.

Nope, nobody should do anything. Fuck the workers, let them strike. You assholes will come around when you can't get the things you like.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Listen RobGMN... I did not say that so your question is pointless. I said if the resolution falls on Biden then he better not fuck it up.

Jimi is not me. I am not Jimi.
Try to keep up.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope, nobody should do anything. Fuck the workers, let them strike. You assholes will come around when you can't get the things you like.

You want conversation, but refuse to have conversation.

What would you consider Biden “screwing this up”, and what would you consider him doing it “right” when it comes to this latest round of contract negotiations?

You must have an opinion, given your pseudo-complaint.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Jimi is not me. I am not Jimi.
Try to keep up.

He phrased his statement/question like you do... I know, comprehension eludes you on a daily basis.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You want conversation, but refuse to have conversation.

What would you consider Biden “screwing this up”, and what would you consider him doing it “right” when it comes to this latest round of contract negotiations?

You must have an opinion, given your pseudo-complaint.

Nope, fuck it, fuck the workers, let them strike. I don't care to discuss this topic with either of you.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope, fuck it, fuck the workers, let them strike. I don't care to discuss this topic with either of you.

You complain that no one will converse with you, then you refuse to converse. And then you will cry that people are interpreting your words and making up your thoughts for you.
Why is that?
Are you here simply to troll the thread? That would make you even more disingenuous, since you often accuse others of being trolls, especially at times they point out your errors.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You complain that no one will converse with you, then you refuse to converse.
Why is that?
Are you here simply to troll the thread? That would make you even more disingenuous, since you often accuse others of being trolls, especially at times they point out your errors.

Nope, you got that shit covered. It's stupid that every time a conversation is started you can count on people like you completely making it a worthless conversation laced with personal attacks and finger pointing.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope, you got that shit covered. It's stupid that every time a conversation is started you can count on people like you completely making it a worthless conversation laced with personal attacks and finger pointing.

Who is finger pointing? You made a statement with an implied opinion but left out important details. I am asking for details.
Welcome to conversation. Conversation you expressly complained you wanted. Is conversation not what you thought it was?