Nice conspiracy theory.
Same people who attacked the Capitol pretending to be Republicans?
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Same people who attacked the Capitol pretending to be Republicans?
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But that's not what you argued. The POTUS of all factors has the least impact on fuel prices. Basically what this comes down to is Biden said mean stuff about big oil. His actual actions amount to nothing. OTOH, OPEC+ is really keeping a cap on supply. Russian oil is really restricted on the market. People are really driving and flying again. Cruise lines are really cruising again. Economies are really opening up. But Biden talked tough about big oil. Biden said blah, blah, blah, green energy (aka lied to his base about going green).
You know, because comparing the actual price of an item in the past to the actual price in the present is the only way to understand if an item has gotten more or less expensive.
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First off, I'm not sure what type of powers you think Biden or even Congress + POTUS possess. Perhaps with Trump in office and GOP control of Congress, maybe the USSC might sign off on it. Assuming Biden actually could end the importing/exporting of oil, it would be totally disruptive short term. It would f'up refining capacity in the US and impact the entire global system. Canada and Mexico's economies would take big hits in the near term, which would boomerang back on us making our looming recession even worse. Lots of bad long term implications as well, but we'll stick to the short term.
It seems you want to nationalize the oil industry, I can get behind that. Do you suggest a "Great Leap Forward" approach to taking over big oil? Perhaps you prefer a more fascist approach...
That said, what is the benefit of not buying oil from abroad? Would you just forbid import/export of oil or also seize control of big oil? Would oil (rather than the land sitting over the oil) become a national asset? If big oil corporations are to be nationalized, do we "buy out" the existing ownership or just seize their ownership stake? Who would run the big oil companies - ie do we continue paying millions and billions to corporate fat cats or put more reasonably paid gov't bureaucrats in charge?
More importantly if we do nationalize oil production, how do we prevent the rise of a Russian or Saudi type of system where a national asset still ends up only benefitting the few? Furthermore, what is to prevent "US Department of National Oil" from becoming another arm of the "deep state," liberals, Democrats, the Clintons, etc, like the FBI, DOJ, CIA... Is that really a scenario you're willing to risk.
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Their invisible fingerprints are everywhere:
Sandy Hook hoax and subsequent Alex Jones loss in court
Stolen elections (that leave no evidence behind - only the CIA or FBI or the Clintons could pull that off)
Overthrowing the legitimate Ukrainian gov't causing Putin's "Liberation Invasion."
Moon Landing
Coldplay & Nickleback (seriously try and explain them)
Planted classified docs at Mar-a-lago
Covid outbreak
Dallas Cowboys (who are going on 3 decades without a Super Bowl win)
9/11 - think about it, how did 4-5 guys with box cutters seize a commerical aircraft (4 times)
Iran Hostage Crisis
Vietnam War
JFK
Allegedly Mars probes (does anybody buy these works of fiction?)
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Doesn't take much to get a liberal wound up.
Rob, just because I said we have heard the supply and demand shit before doesn't mean shit. The point was that this administration refused to take ANY responsibility for ANYTHING. But use it for your narrative Rob.
Vaccinating part of a person, that post specifically was sarcastic satire. You and Bobby got dickhurt about it. Everything that came after was pointless as neither one of you can prove the ability to vaccinate part of a person. But again, feeeeeeeed your narrative Rob.
Actual prices... scaring liberals for decades. Like I said, I don't care how you want to try and make things look normal by the use of your averages, cost over time and all the other shit that you and others want to use to make prices look like they haven't really changed much when in fact they have. $10 is more than $5 period. If you are paying $10 instead of $5 you are paying more. Period.
Prices increase over time and rise like a staircase, I get that. However when you throw a step or two in there that is twice or three times as high and continue climbing then there is a problem. Then people like you and the administration that cause the larger step (inflation) will try to blind people with historical pricing and averages and blah blah blah. "Technically if you factory in all this bullshit you are only paying $0.14 more for that $25 steak that you paid $8 for during the last administration". Yeah, that shit.
Rob, just because I said we have heard the supply and demand shit before doesn't mean shit. The point was that this administration refused to take ANY responsibility for ANYTHING. But use it for your narrative Rob.
Vaccinating part of a person, that post specifically was sarcastic satire. You and Bobby got dickhurt about it. Everything that came after was pointless as neither one of you can prove the ability to vaccinate part of a person. But again, feeeeeeeed your narrative Rob.
Actual prices... scaring liberals for decades. Like I said, I don't care how you want to try and make things look normal by the use of your averages, cost over time and all the other shit that you and others want to use to make prices look like they haven't really changed much when in fact they have. $10 is more than $5 period. If you are paying $10 instead of $5 you are paying more. Period.
Prices increase over time and rise like a staircase, I get that. However when you throw a step or two in there that is twice or three times as high and continue climbing then there is a problem. Then people like you and the administration that cause the larger step (inflation) will try to blind people with historical pricing and averages and blah blah blah. "Technically if you factory in all this bullshit you are only paying $0.14 more for that $25 steak that you paid $8 for during the last administration". Yeah, that shit.
Doesn't take much to get a liberal wound up.
I sure got your wheels spinning.
Rob, just because I said we have heard the supply and demand shit before doesn't mean shit. The point was that this administration refused to take ANY responsibility for ANYTHING. But use it for your narrative Rob.
If "supply and demand" "doesn't mean shit" in the discussion of price for a commodity like gasoline, then you are obviously clueless about supply and demand. Why do you wnat Biden to take repsonsibility for supply and demand?
Vaccinating part of a person, that post specifically was sarcastic satire. You and Bobby got dickhurt about it. Everything that came after was pointless as neither one of you can prove the ability to vaccinate part of a person. But again, feeeeeeeed your narrative Rob.
Ahhh, "sarcastic satire". Nice try at a backpedal, except you spent FAR to much time trying to argue your point about "partial vaccination". If you didn't believe what you were saying, why defend it?
Actual prices... scaring liberals for decades. Like I said, I don't care how you want to try and make things look normal by the use of your averages, cost over time and all the other shit that you and others want to use to make prices look like they haven't really changed much when in fact they have. $10 is more than $5 period. If you are paying $10 instead of $5 you are paying more. Period.
Aren't you the guy who accused ME of "making everything political"? How in the world do you consider nominal pricing and real pricing to be a "liberal" thing? Is it because Conservatives don't understand things like math and science, and the only thing that makes sense is what they see NOW?
And you are STILL arguing that one figure is bigger than another, and that is all that matters.
Do you really think a $600 TV today is more expensive than a $500 TV 20 years ago, even though the cost per sq. in. is about HALF today than what it was, not to mention income has gone way up? But no, $600 is MORE, and that's ALL that matter, right?
Change the 10 on your amp to 11. Because, 11 is MORE.
Prices increase over time and rise like a staircase, I get that. However when you throw a step or two in there that is twice or three times as high and continue climbing then there is a problem. Then people like you and the administration that cause the larger step (inflation) will try to blind people with historical pricing and averages and blah blah blah. "Technically if you factory in all this bullshit you are only paying $0.14 more for that $25 steak that you paid $8 for during the last administration". Yeah, that shit.
Yeah, "that shit". That "shit" is called mathematics used in economics. Simply because it makes no sense to you, doesn't mean it's wrong. Take some remedial classes in math. Take a class in economics. Learn how those "shit" numbers are actually VERY important and tell the real story of money.
You would be shocked, and it may even help you be able to focus on the real issues, not a few cents difference in the price of gas.
I sure got your wheels spinning.
Rob, just because I said we have heard the supply and demand shit before doesn't mean shit. The point was that this administration refused to take ANY responsibility for ANYTHING. But use it for your narrative Rob.
If "supply and demand" "doesn't mean shit" in the discussion of price for a commodity like gasoline, then you are obviously clueless about supply and demand. Why do you wnat Biden to take repsonsibility for supply and demand?
Vaccinating part of a person, that post specifically was sarcastic satire. You and Bobby got dickhurt about it. Everything that came after was pointless as neither one of you can prove the ability to vaccinate part of a person. But again, feeeeeeeed your narrative Rob.
Ahhh, "sarcastic satire". Nice try at a backpedal, except you spent FAR to much time trying to argue your point about "partial vaccination". If you didn't believe what you were saying, why defend it?
Actual prices... scaring liberals for decades. Like I said, I don't care how you want to try and make things look normal by the use of your averages, cost over time and all the other shit that you and others want to use to make prices look like they haven't really changed much when in fact they have. $10 is more than $5 period. If you are paying $10 instead of $5 you are paying more. Period.
Aren't you the guy who accused ME of "making everything political"? How in the world do you consider nominal pricing and real pricing to be a "liberal" thing? Is it because Conservatives don't understand things like math and science, and the only thing that makes sense is what they see NOW?
And you are STILL arguing that one figure is bigger than another, and that is all that matters.
Do you really think a $600 TV today is more expensive than a $500 TV 20 years ago, even though the cost per sq. in. is about HALF today than what it was, not to mention income has gone way up? But no, $600 is MORE, and that's ALL that matter, right?
Change the 10 on your amp to 11. Because, 11 is MORE.
Prices increase over time and rise like a staircase, I get that. However when you throw a step or two in there that is twice or three times as high and continue climbing then there is a problem. Then people like you and the administration that cause the larger step (inflation) will try to blind people with historical pricing and averages and blah blah blah. "Technically if you factory in all this bullshit you are only paying $0.14 more for that $25 steak that you paid $8 for during the last administration". Yeah, that shit.
Yeah, "that shit". That "shit" is called mathematics used in economics. Simply because it makes no sense to you, doesn't mean it's wrong. Take some remedial classes in math. Take a class in economics. Learn how those "shit" numbers are actually VERY important and tell the real story of money.
You would be shocked, and it may even help you be able to focus on the real issues, not a few cents difference in the price of gas.
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The problem with people like you is that your reading comprehension is fucked, and you argue outside the actual argument
Your stupid *** assumes that I'm Christian because I don't stand for the persecution of Christians but in ACTUALITY there is not a religious bone in my body.
Religious freedom is one of the constitutional rights this country allows and just like freedom of speech and guns. . . the leftists idiots would rather just do away with all that because its hard for them to be offended.
I'd rather take religious values instilled into politics over the morally bankrupted perversion the left instills into politics.
IF you have issues with that . . . then oh well, deal with it bro!
My comprehension is damn good, and so is my memoy.
You really didn't speak to any of the points I brought up, aside from declaring your apatheism. And that lefitsts want to take away religious freedom (which is an ironic claim, since most Conservatives want a nation religion with heavy crossover between church and state).
Wanna talk about the economy?
How about the Democrat givers versus the Republican takers?
How about preventing abortion and then completely forgetting about the saved *****?
Care to explain about the "morally bankrupted perversion the left instills into politics"? Is that like this whole "stop the steal" lie, or something else? Details are important. Maybe share some.
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Example? Any examples of Biden or Rob (or myself?) using averages and historical pricing in some nefarious manner?
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