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[RobGMN Premium Member]

I tell you what... when you are done being EMO about Jan 6th, go back and read what I said. I really don't like having to repeat myself or explain shit to people over and over. It explains my opinions of the entire situation. The goal was to protest, peacefully. (THEIR FUCKING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT), there were instigators there, (MOST LIKELY PLANTS FROM THE LEFT), mob mentality takes over. The events that followed were quite convenient for the left as well weren't they. Now they could say things like coup, insurrection, traitors, terrorist... and so on. This gains sympathy for Democrats doesn't it. The only people that stood anything to gain from Jan 6th.

You keep right on thinking that Jan 6th was some sort of conspiracy plot by half the voting country to overthrow the government and somehow reverse the election while storming the capitol building with banners, flags and hats. It's easy to accept what biased media, the far left and Democrats have told you to believe about Jan 6th because you want to believe them. You are no less biased then they are. If you weren't biased, you might be able to think rationally about Jan 6th. You might be able to ask questions like "why" or "is it even possible for them to take over anything" and so on. For you, it's easier to just chose a side... like I said, mob mentality.

Thus ends the diatribe.

You previously complained that I don’t ask you the whats or whys when you post. So I ask the whats and whys, and you attempt done lame insult about “emo Jan 6th” nonsense.

I asked you specifically if they weren’t attempting to stop the Electoral vote, what exactly were they “protesting” when the stormed the Capitol?
Of course, you jump right to logical fallacies when your theory gets questioned and the flaws are pointed out.

How many of the 910 rioters arrested have been found actually to be members of the left wing who started the riot and somehow controlled the minds of the Trumpers?
And how do you know what was in the minds of these “peaceful protesters” who were somehow not in control of their bodies that day, and decided to spontaneously riot?
Aren’t you the guy who always complains that others are trying to say what’s in YOUR mind after taking your words literally?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The problem with blaming the left for this, is the right has been so willing to continue down this rabbit hole. The stolen election has actually become the main plank of the GOP, so much so that otherwise " perfect" conservatives are losing to candidates who are willing to claim the election was stolen

We need to weed out all the shithead politicians and move forward with actual decent people... be they Democrat, Republican or other.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You previously complained that I don’t ask you the whats or whys when you post. So I ask the whats and whys, and you attempt done lame insult about “emo Jan 6th” nonsense.

I asked you specifically if they weren’t attempting to stop the Electoral vote, what exactly were they “protesting” when the stormed the Capitol?
Of course, you jump right to logical fallacies when your theory gets questioned and the flaws are pointed out.

How many of the 910 rioters arrested have been found actually to be members of the left wing who started the riot and somehow controlled the minds of the Trumpers?
And how do you know what was in the minds of these “peaceful protesters” who were somehow not in control of their bodies that day, and decided to spontaneously riot?
Aren’t you the guy who always complains that others are trying to say what’s in YOUR mind after taking your words literally?

Answer me this, why do you insist on me repeating myself or explaining what I posted to you. My post was to the point and directly voices my opinions about Jan 6th.

To your questions. What did Trump ask them to do? Not your version of what the left has told you to think Trump TOLD them to do. Tell me, unbiased, what did Trump say to the people to do?

Next question. I didn't say there were 910 instigators. I am straight up saying there were a FEW as in less than 10 instigators there working for the far left and their job was to get some shit started. It doesn't take much, as I explained.

Next question. I have no more idea of what was in their minds than you did. So you tell me how you know their goal was an insurrection/coup/circle jerk or whatever.

I said when you were done being Emo... as in emotional the emotion and not Emo the gender identity because of the way your text was reading... which was emotional.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I wasn't painting them in the same light just pointing out some hypocrisy on how people feel about insurrection....

I'm not the one being naive...there was a surprising lack of weaponry to support the intent of overthrowing the government...believing Jan 6 was more than a protest that devolved into riot is just a talking point...one you wholeheartedly belive since it's reaffirms your political idolatry....

Hmmmm, 9/11 was essentially effected with box cutters.
The weaponry found on Jan 6th far exceeded box cutters. Yet, preventing the Electoral vote was not possible?
Sounds an awful lot like trying to minimize the situation. What USF one of those Proud Boys nut jobs was wearing a kablooey vest?
And don’t say “well, they weren’t”; that’s 20/20 hindsight. With motivation, Jan 6th could have been FAR worse that it was.

Thinking any less is utterly naive.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I don't care what they've said...I've seen plenty of video that absolutely shows him whipping up the crowd...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Answer me this, why do you insist on me repeating myself or explaining what I posted to you. My post was to the point and directly voices my opinions about Jan 6th.
Because you dont answer questions. You reply with (usually) ad hominem attacks, and attempts to redirect. See below.

To your questions. What did Trump ask them to do? Not your version of what the left has told you to think Trump TOLD them to do. Tell me, unbiased, what did Trump say to the people to do?
That doesn’t answer my questions. You said they were there to peacefully protest. Protest WHAT? Is a question I asked, since you said preventing the vote was not a goal.
What were they protesting?

Next question. I didn't say there were 910 instigators. I am straight up saying there were a FEW as in less than 10 instigators there working for the far left and their job was to get some shit started. It doesn't take much, as I explained.
Again, question not answered. My question is how many people have been shown to be left-wingers that managed to incite the right-wingers to do what they did?
As an add-on, you made it VERY clear that there is no way Trump could have incited the crowd to act. If the leader of all those people could not incite them, why would you argue that a handful of left-wingers could do it?
And again, is there proof of your theory?

Next question. I have no more idea of what was in their minds than you did. So you tell me how you know their goal was an insurrection/coup/circle jerk or whatever.

Their actions speak to what was in their minds. We’re they there? Did they breach security measures to get into the Capitol?
If it wasn’t in their mind to do what they did, who was the puppetmaster causing them to do it?
Intent means willful action. I do not accept a theory that none of those people did this without knowing what they were doing.

I said when you were done being Emo... as in emotional the emotion and not Emo the gender identity because of the way your text was reading... which was emotional.

Funny that you call me emo when every argument I post deals with facts, and probably 40% of your responses are just emotion-based ********** ad-hominem.
Yes, I can provide plenty of examples.
I didn’t know emo was a gender identity term. I thought it was those kids who dress in dark clothes with black eyeliner, and nope around a lot.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Hmmmm, 9/11 was essentially effected with box cutters.
The weaponry found on Jan 6th far exceeded box cutters. Yet, preventing the Electoral vote was not possible?
Sounds an awful lot like trying to minimize the situation. What USF one of those Proud Boys nut jobs was wearing a kablooey vest?
And don’t say “well, they weren’t”; that’s 20/20 hindsight. With motivation, Jan 6th could have been FAR worse that it was.

Thinking any less is utterly naive.

You can "what if" anything into a possible terrorist attack...the fact is nobody blew up the Capitol with a ******* vest...so why bother with the "what if" nonsense...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Answer me this, why do you insist on me repeating myself or explaining what I posted to you. My post was to the point and directly voices my opinions about Jan 6th.
Because you dont answer questions. You reply with (usually) ad hominem attacks, and attempts to redirect. See below.

To your questions. What did Trump ask them to do? Not your version of what the left has told you to think Trump TOLD them to do. Tell me, unbiased, what did Trump say to the people to do?
That doesn’t answer my questions. You said they were there to peacefully protest. Protest WHAT? Is a question I asked, since you said preventing the vote was not a goal.
What were they protesting?

Next question. I didn't say there were 910 instigators. I am straight up saying there were a FEW as in less than 10 instigators there working for the far left and their job was to get some shit started. It doesn't take much, as I explained.
Again, question not answered. My question is how many people have been shown to be left-wingers that managed to incite the right-wingers to do what they did?
As an add-on, you made it VERY clear that there is no way Trump could have incited the crowd to act. If the leader of all those people could not incite them, why would you argue that a handful of left-wingers could do it?
And again, is there proof of your theory?

Next question. I have no more idea of what was in their minds than you did. So you tell me how you know their goal was an insurrection/coup/circle jerk or whatever.

Their actions speak to what was in their minds. We’re they there? Did they breach security measures to get into the Capitol?
If it wasn’t in their mind to do what they did, who was the puppetmaster causing them to do it?
Intent means willful action. I do not accept a theory that none of those people did this without knowing what they were doing.

I said when you were done being Emo... as in emotional the emotion and not Emo the gender identity because of the way your text was reading... which was emotional.

Funny that you call me emo when every argument I post deals with facts, and probably 40% of your responses are just emotion-based ********** ad-hominem.
Yes, I can provide plenty of examples.
I didn’t know emo was a gender identity term. I thought it was those kids who dress in dark clothes with black eyeliner, and nope around a lot.

There in lies the reason one cannot have a conversation with YOU about Jan 6th. You are biased. Your mind is made up before the conversations start. Your last statements above are flawed. You cannot deal with the facts on Jan 6th because YOU don't have all the facts. YOU cannot speak for ANY individual there. YOU have NO idea what was in their heads. This means YOU have to speculate and that is where you are flawed. Because you will speculate to the bias in you.

You're right, I am not answering your questions and you have not answered mine.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You can "what if" anything into a possible terrorist attack...the fact is nobody blew up the Capitol with a ******* vest...so why bother with the "what if" nonsense...

Because it speaks to what the “peaceful protesters” were up to that day.
People were found with weapons, including stun guns, baseball bats, pepper spray, pipe bombs.
These are items you bring to a “peaceful protest” where you’re told to “fight like hell” (but only in a “metaphorical” way, per some people)?
Isn’t that like saying the guy who pointed the gun at the bank teller and demanded money was just confused and thought it was a withdrawal form?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Because it speaks to what the “peaceful protesters” were up to that day.
People were found with weapons, including stun guns, baseball bats, pepper spray, pipe bombs.
These are items you bring to a “peaceful protest” where you’re told to “fight like hell” (but only in a “metaphorical” way, per some people)?
Isn’t that like saying the guy who pointed the gun at the bank teller and demanded money was just confused and thought it was a withdrawal form?

So how did these people know ahead of time they would be told to fight like hell so they could get these weapons ready and have them for the speech that day?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

There in lies the reason one cannot have a conversation with YOU about Jan 6th. You are biased. Your mind is made up before the conversations start. Your last statements above are flawed. You cannot deal with the facts on Jan 6th because YOU don't have all the facts. YOU cannot speak for ANY individual there. YOU have NO idea what was in their heads. This means YOU have to speculate and that is where you are flawed. Because you will speculate to the bias in you.

You're right, I am not answering your questions and you have not answered mine.

In other words, you refuse to support your argument when questions are posed that show your argument doesn’t make sense.

You are sure the insurrectionists were there only to “peacefully protest”, and that it was left-wingers who incited the events of the day.
Yet, when asked the simple questions of what they were protesting, and what proof there is if “left-wing incitement’’, you cry that you cannot have a conversation.
If you want a conversation so bad, how about answering the questions I ask instead of just ping-ponging off to another subject?

It’s obvious that you simply can’t, because any answer will only show you have nothing to back your theory other than feelings.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

In other words, you refuse to support your argument when questions are posed that show your argument doesn’t make sense.

You are sure the insurrectionists were there only to “peacefully protest”, and that it was left-wingers who incited the events of the day.
Yet, when asked the simple questions of what they were protesting, and what proof there is if “left-wing incitement’’, you cry that you cannot have a conversation.
If you want a conversation so bad, how about answering the questions I ask instead of just ping-ponging off to another subject?

It’s obvious that you simply can’t, because any answer will only show you have nothing to back your theory other than feelings.

It's not an argument they are my opinions.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

In other words, you refuse to support your argument when questions are posed that show your argument doesn’t make sense.

You are sure the insurrectionists were there only to “peacefully protest”, and that it was left-wingers who incited the events of the day.
Yet, when asked the simple questions of what they were protesting, and what proof there is if “left-wing incitement’’, you cry that you cannot have a conversation.
If you want a conversation so bad, how about answering the questions I ask instead of just ping-ponging off to another subject?

It’s obvious that you simply can’t, because any answer will only show you have nothing to back your theory other than feelings.

Prove they were there to incite an erection..... uh insurrection and or a coup.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So how did these people know ahead of time they would be told to fight like hell so they could get these weapons ready and have them for the speech that day?

Because he was making his ridiculous claims months before Jan 6th, and Jan 6th just happened to be the day of the Electoral College vote. ‘Would have been pretty stupid to show up on Jan 7th and protest, no? And, they weren’t there BEFORE Jan 6th, “protesting peacefully”.
So, why the weapons and pipe bombs for a “peaceful protest”?
“Self-defense pipe bombs” ya think?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Prove they were there to incite an erection..... uh insurrection and or a coup.

I don’t have to. They did it. They got arrested for it.
If they weren’t there, they wouldn’t be getting arrested and prosecuted now.