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[RobGMN Premium Member]

I didn't make a definitive claim...you did...and you can't definitely back it up...just facts buddy

The overwhelming evidence and analysis says he existed. If you want to say no, then you have to disprove the evidence. That's how it works in the grownup world.
Go for it.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Are you smarter than Thomas Jefferson?

Who knows? But if the post by Eggs/Buck/ThxOne/ElWapo is correct, then it seems to point the finger at Trump followers to be bled.
Self-hatred, maybe?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The overwhelming evidence and analysis says he existed. If you want to say no, then you have to disprove the evidence. That's how it works in the grownup world.
Go for it.

Nope...you have to prove your statement....that's the standard you hold everyone to...don't be a hypocrite now...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Who knows? But if the post by Eggs/Buck/ThxOne/ElWapo is correct, then it seems to point the finger at Trump followers to be bled.
Self-hatred, maybe?

Well that quote has nothing to do with them...it's from Jefferson who helped create the framework of this country...so unless you're more more accomplished in life than he was or carry a superior intellect...you don't a leg to stand on criticizing jefferson's quotes

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope...you have to prove your statement....that's the standard you hold everyone to...don't be a hypocrite now...

You want me to prove that I accept the analysis of experts regarding the existence of Jesus as a person? How do I prove that to you?
I accept as fact that the moon is roughly 239.000 miles from Earth. How would I prove that I accept what the experts have said?
or would you want me to prove the distance to you?
You're setting yourself up to look like a fool again.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You want me to prove that I accept the analysis of experts regarding the existence of Jesus as a person? How do I prove that to you?
I accept as fact that the moon is roughly 239.000 miles from Earth. How would I prove that I accept what the experts have said?
or would you want me to prove the distance to you?
You're setting yourself up to look like a fool again.

Nope I want you prove Jesus was real and a person of color...like you stated...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Well that quote has nothing to do with them...it's from Jefferson who helped create the framework of this country...so unless you're more more accomplished in life than he was or carry a superior intellect...you don't a leg to stand on criticizing jefferson's quotes

If the quote has nothing to do with them, why is it being shared here, in the context of today?
Are you saying the quote has no meaning outside of the moment Jefferson uttered it, and he is unintelligent?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

If the quote has nothing to do with them, why is it being shared here, in the context of today?
Are you saying the quote has no meaning outside of the moment Jefferson uttered it, and he is unintelligent?

I'm not claiming Jefferson is unintelligent...you're just trying to spin it to associate it with Trump which is a dishonest tactic...and Jefferson wasn't the only founding father that believed revolution may be needed periodically to prevent over expansion of government power...so either you have read very little about the details, debates, and personal thoughts of our framers...or you're just dishonest and like to spin shit...

 

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Nope I want you prove Jesus was real and a person of color...like you stated...

What is acceptable proof? You said my business card was acceptable for my installation shop, then changed the goalpost. Not much a man of your word.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I didn't say shit about your business card...frankly idgaf what you used to do...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I'm not claiming Jefferson is unintelligent...you're just trying to spin it to associate it with Trump which is a dishonest tactic...and Jefferson wasn't the only founding father that believed revolution may be needed periodically to prevent over expansion of government power...so either you have read very little about the details, debates, and personal thoughts of our framers...or you're just dishonest and like to spin shit...

Ohhhh, when Trump followers say they are "patriots", they don't mean the "patriots" that should have their blood spilled per Jefferson's quote? They are a different type of "patriot"? Explain the difference, or explain why the Trumpers who call themselves "patriots" are lying about what they are.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Ohhhh, when Trump followers say they are "patriots", they don't mean the "patriots" that should have their blood spilled per Jefferson's quote? They are a different type of "patriot"? Explain the difference, or explain why the Trumpers who call themselves "patriots" are lying about what they are.

That all you got?...so again either you believe Trump is on the same level as our framers or you're using a dishonest tactic to link them...which is it?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That all you got?...so again either you believe Trump is on the same level as our framers or you're using a dishonest tactic to link them...which is it?

Are you drinking already?
You said Jefferson's quote had no meaning in the context of today. If not, then why was it brought up in this thread?

YOUR words: "Well that quote has nothing to do with them...it's from Jefferson who helped create the framework of this country...so unless you're more more accomplished in life than he was or carry a superior intellect...you don't a leg to stand on criticizing jefferson's quotes "

Are you speaking for Jefferson when you say his words had nothing to do with patriots, or is that something you read somewhere? Are you saying he didn't know what he was talking about when he wrote the words? That you know better than he did about what he was writing?

"the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants"
"Set them right as to facts" - 'Seems this applies to Trump and his patriots quite well since they are so vehemently in opposition of facts.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Are you drinking already?
You said Jefferson's quote had no meaning in the context of today. If not, then why was it brought up in this thread?

YOUR words: "Well that quote has nothing to do with them...it's from Jefferson who helped create the framework of this country...so unless you're more more accomplished in life than he was or carry a superior intellect...you don't a leg to stand on criticizing jefferson's quotes "

Are you speaking for Jefferson when you say his words had nothing to do with patriots, or is that something you read somewhere? Are you saying he didn't know what he was talking about when he wrote the words? That you know better than he did about what he was writing?

"the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants"
"Set them right as to facts" - 'Seems this applies to Trump and his patriots quite well since they are so vehemently in opposition of facts.

No you said it had no context today and are trying to put that on me...you're trying to link it to Jan 6th though...so like I said either you believe Trump is on the same level as the framers or you're knowingly being dishonest in your attempt to link them together...