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heard same speakers as mine on high end kenwood, sounded much better
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<blockquote data-quote="helotaxi" data-source="post: 2547194" data-attributes="member: 550915"><p>If the gains are set correctly, the most dynamic passage still won't cause the output to clip. The gain is set to a 0dB reference. That is your peak voltage/power. From there you can only turn it down. The actual dynamic range of the system is not limited by the amp, only the range of actual SPL over which the dynamic range can fall. If one setup is actually feeding the speakers 40W RMS, it will be 10dB louder than the system feeding 4W RMS. The reality is that you never actually run that much power to the speakers. If you are both listening to your systems at a level that won't clip the lower powered system, the dynamics of the higher powered system might seem a little more effortless because of the additional headroom. More power means louder, not less dynamic. Just because you have more power doesn't mean that you use it all (or even a fraction of it).</p><p></p><p>The difference that you hear is inherrent in the install. Not just how the components are attached to the car but the car itself. Based on what you noted as the differenc in the sound between the two systems it sounds like he has some artificial spatial processing in his system that is adding things that aren't in the recording. In that case, his setup might sound more pleasing but it isn't accurate. Also if you have time alignment that you aren't using and he is using his, the difference can be huge. Unused processing may as well not be there. Plugging your setup into his HU won't prove anything simply because all his HU processing is set to his car, not yours. It might sound OK, but it might sound like trash and neither will be an actual indication of the relative SQ of the HU but rather how it is being used. BTW, a S/N of 94dB is pretty typical and much better than that of your amps. It is way beyond audibility.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="helotaxi, post: 2547194, member: 550915"] If the gains are set correctly, the most dynamic passage still won't cause the output to clip. The gain is set to a 0dB reference. That is your peak voltage/power. From there you can only turn it down. The actual dynamic range of the system is not limited by the amp, only the range of actual SPL over which the dynamic range can fall. If one setup is actually feeding the speakers 40W RMS, it will be 10dB louder than the system feeding 4W RMS. The reality is that you never actually run that much power to the speakers. If you are both listening to your systems at a level that won't clip the lower powered system, the dynamics of the higher powered system might seem a little more effortless because of the additional headroom. More power means louder, not less dynamic. Just because you have more power doesn't mean that you use it all (or even a fraction of it). The difference that you hear is inherrent in the install. Not just how the components are attached to the car but the car itself. Based on what you noted as the differenc in the sound between the two systems it sounds like he has some artificial spatial processing in his system that is adding things that aren't in the recording. In that case, his setup might sound more pleasing but it isn't accurate. Also if you have time alignment that you aren't using and he is using his, the difference can be huge. Unused processing may as well not be there. Plugging your setup into his HU won't prove anything simply because all his HU processing is set to his car, not yours. It might sound OK, but it might sound like trash and neither will be an actual indication of the relative SQ of the HU but rather how it is being used. BTW, a S/N of 94dB is pretty typical and much better than that of your amps. It is way beyond audibility. [/QUOTE]
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