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    Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    I'm going to be running a DC 5k and a Rockford T400-2 soon. Trying to find an alt for my 2011 Ford Taurus, here is my current electrical setup idea and my alternator options:

    Current Items
    (1) Two runs on KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks 1/0
    (1) Stock 140amp alternator
    (1) Stock battery under the hood (XS D3400 to come soon)
    (2) XS XP3000's for the trunk

    Alt Choices:
    DC Power Engineering
    1.
    270XP
    200 amps @ idle / 180 amps when @ 200F
    270 amps @ max / 250 amps when @ 200F
    (12) press fit 50 amp diodes
    $590

    2.
    370XP
    170 amps @ idle / 150 amps when @ 200F
    370 amps @ max / 330 amps when @ 200F
    (12) press fit 50 amp diodes
    $800

    Mechman
    1.
    270 amp G series unit
    165 amps @ 500 rpm
    Full (270) output ~2,000 rpm
    (6) press fit 65 amp diodes
    $450

    Iraggi
    1.
    320 amp unit
    ~170 amps @ idle
    Full (320) output by 1,800 rpm
    $660

    Singer can't build me anything. Excessive Amperage can only go up to a 220 amp unit, which definitely isn't enough. Ohio gen never responded lol. I feel I should focus way more on the idle output instead of the max possible output. In that case, the DC 270XP would look like my best bet. Any further input? Thanks guys, not easy finding an alt for this car.
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    Car: 2011 Ford Taurus SEL / Alt: DC Power 270XP
    Deck: Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH / Amps: (1) DC 5.0K, (1) RF T400-2
    Speaks: (1) RF T2652-S 6.5", (1) RF T1682 6x8"
    Subs: (2) DC XLm2 15's / Batts: (2) XS XP3000 Batts
    Wiring: Kolossus Fleks Kable 1/0 (2 runs)

    My Ratings:
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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    I have the dc 270xp alternator in my honda and its amazing and built like a tank. The specs you posted on the iraggi alternator seems pretty good too for the price.
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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    Depends on how you listen to your music. Rarely am I sitting parked idling with my music turned up, I am not into competing. I turn it up while I'm driving, so personally I would lean toward 370amp unit, price factor excluded. To me it is worth giving up 30 amps of alternator power at idle, to gain 100 @ ~2k rpm. I don't know if I could ever drop 800 on a single alternator however. I didn't mention the Iraggi because I would never buy an alt from him after what happened before.




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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    Thank you @martiandancer31 for your always superb help haha. You better be enjoying that alt btw!

    Quote Originally Posted by myjaja View Post
    I have the dc 270xp alternator in my honda and its amazing and built like a tank. The specs you posted on the iraggi alernator seems pretty good too for the price.
    Yeah I am really liking the 270XP, it has super idle output, which for demo's and in city driving, I feel would be a great investment.

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    Depends on how you listen to your music. Rarely am I sitting parked idling with my music turned up, I am not into competing. I turn it up while I'm driving, so personally I would lean toward 370amp unit, price factor excluded. To me it is worth giving up 30 amps of alternator power at idle, to gain 100 @ ~2k rpm. I don't know if I could ever drop 800 on a single alternator however. I didn't mention the Iraggi because I would never buy an alt from him after what happened before.
    Yeah see I have a mix of city and thruway driving. And I get worried of my voltage at stop lights if I'm beating on the system pretty good. On the thruway I am at about 1,600 - 1,800 rpm. In the city is is around 1,000 - 1,200 with the car idling down to 650 rpm. Not sure if to focus on the max or the idle... grrr wish this was easier. DC emailed me and said I should call them today about my options, so I will after work.



    Car: 2011 Ford Taurus SEL / Alt: DC Power 270XP
    Deck: Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH / Amps: (1) DC 5.0K, (1) RF T400-2
    Speaks: (1) RF T2652-S 6.5", (1) RF T1682 6x8"
    Subs: (2) DC XLm2 15's / Batts: (2) XS XP3000 Batts
    Wiring: Kolossus Fleks Kable 1/0 (2 runs)

    My Ratings:
    iTrader: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/itrader.php?u=1011469
    Feedback Thread: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/buyer-seller-feedback/575818-mrclean636-feedback-thread.html

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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    Realistically either one should work for you. With your driving habits the 270 might be a better option, plus save some cash. Unless you have a solid frame to ground to, I would think about running dedicated grounds front to back as well. I have 2+ and 2- runs under my car with 2 2500s and 100.4.




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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    Quote Originally Posted by Chriszle View Post
    Realistically either one should work for you. With your driving habits the 270 might be a better option, plus save some cash. Unless you have a solid frame to ground to, I would think about running dedicated grounds front to back as well. I have 2+ and 2- runs under my car with 2 2500s and 100.4.
    Ah see I have read a couple of times about having the negative runs from the front as well. Idk if I should though. Seems like a lot of extra wiring... Did you try it with just the positives and then add the negatives? If so what difference did you notice?



    Car: 2011 Ford Taurus SEL / Alt: DC Power 270XP
    Deck: Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH / Amps: (1) DC 5.0K, (1) RF T400-2
    Speaks: (1) RF T2652-S 6.5", (1) RF T1682 6x8"
    Subs: (2) DC XLm2 15's / Batts: (2) XS XP3000 Batts
    Wiring: Kolossus Fleks Kable 1/0 (2 runs)

    My Ratings:
    iTrader: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/itrader.php?u=1011469
    Feedback Thread: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/buyer-seller-feedback/575818-mrclean636-feedback-thread.html

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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    I didn't try it without the negative runs, but I have a unibody car, and I wanted solid connections front to back with that much current flow. Just remember, the grounds are just as important as the power wire. Your electrical is only as strong as it's weakest link.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chriszle View Post
    I didn't try it without the negative runs, but I have a unibody car, and I wanted solid connections front to back with that much current flow. Just remember, the grounds are just as important as the power wire. Your electrical is only as strong as it's weakest link.
    Ah okay. I had a 300amp Iraggi alt on my 02 Impala with a D3400 and the two XP3000's, just with dual runs of 1/0 and on full tilt my voltage with the 5k never dropped below 13.7 volts. Thought that was pretty good! Might thinking about adding it though on this car. Does your negative runs go straight from the battery under the hood as well?



    Car: 2011 Ford Taurus SEL / Alt: DC Power 270XP
    Deck: Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH / Amps: (1) DC 5.0K, (1) RF T400-2
    Speaks: (1) RF T2652-S 6.5", (1) RF T1682 6x8"
    Subs: (2) DC XLm2 15's / Batts: (2) XS XP3000 Batts
    Wiring: Kolossus Fleks Kable 1/0 (2 runs)

    My Ratings:
    iTrader: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/itrader.php?u=1011469
    Feedback Thread: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/buyer-seller-feedback/575818-mrclean636-feedback-thread.html

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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    Yup. Both runs are connected front back to rear. My voltage drop is .5-.8 volts full tilt listening to decaf, but it holds steady no matter how long I play. I only have 1 D3100 in the trunk with the odyssey group 34 up front, and an underrated 300amp alt from E.A.




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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    Quote Originally Posted by Chriszle View Post
    Yup. Both runs are connected front back to rear. My voltage drop is .5-.8 volts full tilt listening to decaf, but it holds steady no matter how long I play. I only have 1 D3100 in the trunk with the odyssey group 34 up front, and an underrated 300amp alt from E.A.
    Oh that is not a bad voltage drop at all! Is that full tilt while driving along or idle?



    Car: 2011 Ford Taurus SEL / Alt: DC Power 270XP
    Deck: Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH / Amps: (1) DC 5.0K, (1) RF T400-2
    Speaks: (1) RF T2652-S 6.5", (1) RF T1682 6x8"
    Subs: (2) DC XLm2 15's / Batts: (2) XS XP3000 Batts
    Wiring: Kolossus Fleks Kable 1/0 (2 runs)

    My Ratings:
    iTrader: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/itrader.php?u=1011469
    Feedback Thread: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/buyer-seller-feedback/575818-mrclean636-feedback-thread.html

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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    270xp is a beast alt, have a few of them...




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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    Quote Originally Posted by mrclean636 View Post
    Oh that is not a bad voltage drop at all! Is that full tilt while driving along or idle?
    Full tilt driving.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mlstrass View Post
    270xp is a beast alt, have a few of them...
    Just ordered mine Thanks!



    Car: 2011 Ford Taurus SEL / Alt: DC Power 270XP
    Deck: Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH / Amps: (1) DC 5.0K, (1) RF T400-2
    Speaks: (1) RF T2652-S 6.5", (1) RF T1682 6x8"
    Subs: (2) DC XLm2 15's / Batts: (2) XS XP3000 Batts
    Wiring: Kolossus Fleks Kable 1/0 (2 runs)

    My Ratings:
    iTrader: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/itrader.php?u=1011469
    Feedback Thread: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/buyer-seller-feedback/575818-mrclean636-feedback-thread.html

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    Re: Help: Alternator for my DC 5k

    Quote Originally Posted by Chriszle View Post
    Full tilt driving.
    Okay. Well I think I may consider running a negative run back... I'm not sure yet. You think I could get away with only 1 1/0 negative run back and then the other negative run just ground to the frame in the back? And btw I spoke with DC and I just went ahead and purchased the 270XP. The 370 would be better if I had a larger engine and such.



    Car: 2011 Ford Taurus SEL / Alt: DC Power 270XP
    Deck: Pioneer AVIC-Z140BH / Amps: (1) DC 5.0K, (1) RF T400-2
    Speaks: (1) RF T2652-S 6.5", (1) RF T1682 6x8"
    Subs: (2) DC XLm2 15's / Batts: (2) XS XP3000 Batts
    Wiring: Kolossus Fleks Kable 1/0 (2 runs)

    My Ratings:
    iTrader: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/itrader.php?u=1011469
    Feedback Thread: http://www.caraudio.com/forums/buyer-seller-feedback/575818-mrclean636-feedback-thread.html

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