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    Icon8 I immediately blew my new subs.

    I just installed all my car stereo at one time as follows:

    Pioneer AVH4400BH
    Alpine TypeR 6.5 comps
    Alpine TypeR 6.5 coax
    Kicker PKD1 0gauge kit
    2x Alpine SWR-10D4
    Alpine PDX-F4
    Alpine PDX-M12
    Sound Ordnance Bass Bunker dual vented enclosure.

    Everything sounded amazing for about a week and a half then I stupidly pushed the limits of the gain on the sub amp, the subs fully extended and fried.

    I thought, wow, that was dumb.

    So I bought 2x SWR-10D2.

    I turned the gain all the way down and unplugged the power to the sub amp. Installed them. Plugged in the power, no sound from the subs. Music playing quietly on the headunit. Unplugged the speaker connector and plugged it back in, subs immediately fully extended and fried.

    What caused this?? Thanks for help in advance. I am afraid to plug anything else into the amp, I have already pissed away $700.







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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    Quote Originally Posted by therockdrummer View Post
    I just installed all my car stereo at one time as follows:

    Pioneer AVH4400BH
    Alpine TypeR 6.5 comps
    Alpine TypeR 6.5 coax
    Kicker PKD1 0gauge kit
    2x Alpine SWR-10D4
    Alpine PDX-F4
    Alpine PDX-M12
    Sound Ordnance Bass Bunker dual vented enclosure.

    Everything sounded amazing for about a week and a half then I stupidly pushed the limits of the gain on the sub amp, the subs fully extended and fried.

    I thought, wow, that was dumb.

    So I bought 2x SWR-10D2.

    I turned the gain all the way down and unplugged the power to the sub amp. Installed them. Plugged in the power, no sound from the subs. Music playing quietly on the headunit. Unplugged the speaker connector and plugged it back in, subs immediately fully extended and fried.

    What caused this?? Thanks for help in advance. I am afraid to plug anything else into the amp, I have already pissed away $700.
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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    well, how did you wire down the impedance on the subs? each set? second, you never turn up the gain on your subs unless you know what your doing or set it properly with a DMM or o-scope



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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    Why the helll would you turn your gain all the way up?Its not a volume knob.




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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    Quote Originally Posted by therockdrummer View Post
    So I bought 2x SWR-10D2.

    I turned the gain all the way down and unplugged the power to the sub amp. Installed them. Plugged in the power, no sound from the subs. Music playing quietly on the headunit. Unplugged the speaker connector and plugged it back in, subs immediately fully extended and fried.

    What caused this?? Thanks for help in advance. I am afraid to plug anything else into the amp, I have already pissed away $700.
    You probably wired these D2's to .5 ohms.. and you do have a good amp.. so you were probly giving them waaay too much power, and too low of impedance for the amp also..

    You gotta learn to play it safe, or just learn from mistakes (expensive mistakes in your case)



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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    i bet you paid out the *** for all that on crutchfield



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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    you should read the tutorial on setting amplifier gains.. also, you can probably get those subs replaced under warranty. That amp is rated at 2 ohms so you need a 2 ohm final load, meaning that if you want to run 2 type R's, you need the D2 version, but wire them to 2ohms final. You can check the impedance thread for info on how to do this.. now, when you hook all of your crap up, make sure all of the amp settings are at 0. Gain all the way down, bass boost all the way down, etc. I would even keep the filters down until you set the gain properly. Also, make sure the settings on your head unit are at 0 as well. the bass, subwoofer settings, "loudness," etc. keep them all at 0, then properly set your gains.



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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    Quote Originally Posted by fasfocus00 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by xSPLoder808 View Post
    well, how did you wire down the impedance on the subs? each set? second, you never turn up the gain on your subs unless you know what your doing or set it properly with a DMM or o-scope
    The first set I had wired to 4 ohms. The new set was at 2 ohms. What would cause the second set to blow immediately, with no gain present is what I am trying to find out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renzone3 View Post
    Why the helll would you turn your gain all the way up?Its not a volume knob.
    I never said I turned it all the way up. Just too high.




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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    Quote Originally Posted by therockdrummer View Post
    I just installed all my car stereo at one time as follows:

    Pioneer AVH4400BH
    Alpine TypeR 6.5 comps
    Alpine TypeR 6.5 coax
    Kicker PKD1 0gauge kit
    2x Alpine SWR-10D4
    Alpine PDX-F4
    Alpine PDX-M12
    Sound Ordnance Bass Bunker dual vented enclosure.

    Everything sounded amazing for about a week and a half then I stupidly pushed the limits of the gain on the sub amp, the subs fully extended and fried.

    I thought, wow, that was dumb.

    So I bought 2x SWR-10D2.

    I turned the gain all the way down and unplugged the power to the sub amp. Installed them. Plugged in the power, no sound from the subs. Music playing quietly on the headunit. Unplugged the speaker connector and plugged it back in, subs immediately fully extended and fried.

    What caused this?? Thanks for help in advance. I am afraid to plug anything else into the amp, I have already pissed away $700.
    Why did you unplug shit with your music playing?



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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    Quote Originally Posted by therockdrummer View Post
    Well aware, Thanks.



    The first set I had wired to 4 ohms. The new set was at 2 ohms. What would cause the second set to blow immediately, with no gain present is what I am trying to find out.



    I never said I turned it all the way up. Just too high.
    Are you absolutely sure it was wired to 2ohms final? Did you check with a DMM?



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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    Quote Originally Posted by therockdrummer View Post
    The first set I had wired to 4 ohms. The new set was at 2 ohms. What would cause the second set to blow immediately, with no gain present is what I am trying to find out.
    You must have accidently wired it to half ohm, because theres no way that two type R's will immediately blow off 1200rms and minimum gain. I had two type R's on 2400rms+ for like 2 years



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    Quote Originally Posted by SourDeez View Post
    You probably wired these D2's to .5 ohms.. and you do have a good amp.. so you were probly giving them waaay too much power, and too low of impedance for the amp also..

    You gotta learn to play it safe, or just learn from mistakes (expensive mistakes in your case)
    I double and triple checked the wiring, they are definitely wired at a 2 ohm load.

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    i bet you paid out the *** for all that on crutchfield
    I paid less than 1500 for everything on eBay and amazon combined.....

    Quote Originally Posted by skylineTT View Post
    you should read the tutorial on setting amplifier gains.. also, you can probably get those subs replaced under warranty. That amp is rated at 2 ohms so you need a 2 ohm final load, meaning that if you want to run 2 type R's, you need the D2 version, but wire them to 2ohms final. You can check the impedance thread for info on how to do this.. now, when you hook all of your crap up, make sure all of the amp settings are at 0. Gain all the way down, bass boost all the way down, etc. I would even keep the filters down until you set the gain properly. Also, make sure the settings on your head unit are at 0 as well. the bass, subwoofer settings, "loudness," etc. keep them all at 0, then properly set your gains.
    The 'level' for the subwoofer rca out was at 1, eq was flat, no bass boost or anything on. Nothing that should blow it up immediately like it did.

    Quote Originally Posted by IonRL205 View Post
    Why did you unplug shit with your music playing?
    Good question!

    Quote Originally Posted by skylineTT View Post
    Are you absolutely sure it was wired to 2ohms final? Did you check with a DMM?
    The wiring matches perfectly to that of the diagram, jumper in the middle posts, then to each other, then to amp.

    Quote Originally Posted by SourDeez View Post
    You must have accidently wired it to half ohm, because theres no way that two type R's will immediately blow off 1200rms and minimum gain. I had two type R's on 2400rms+ for like 2 years
    That's what I thought !




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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    i just assumed when i saw the s/o box lol



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    Re: I immediately blew my new subs.

    explain in detail how you wired up each sub



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    Quote Originally Posted by SplAffair View Post
    i just assumed when i saw the s/o box lol
    haha, safe assumption, but it was the only place in the world I could find a vented enclosure with an angled rear.




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