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    Dual battery wiring tutorial (and why)

    So the number one question I read here on the forums is "how do I wire my second battery". I have tried helping folks before and figured I would simply make this post that I could send them to for reference, rather than keep replying over and over with the same info. This will hopefully save me some time.

    NOTE: These directions assume that the batteries used are identical. They should be matching batteries in every definition. They should be the same model and age. Connecting dissimilar batteries will shorten the lifespan of each battery at best, and completely drain them at worst. If you choose to mix batteries, do so at your own risk. If you want to run dissimilar batteries for any reason, you can use a battery isolator to keep them separated.

    OK, here is the wiring diagram that I have used many times. I have added some minor reference info to the original illustration to help with this tutorial.



    Here is the explanation for each wire:

    WIRE 1

    This POS+ wire connects the two batteries' positive posts. This wire allows the rear battery to receive the charge from the alternator, just like the front battery receives. Without this wire, the rear battery would not maintain a charge.

    WIRE 1 should be at least 1/0 awg wire. The reason why is that when batteries are connected together, they will instantly equalize in voltage. This can be hundreds of amps of current that is passed. Anything smaller than 1/0 awg wire is likely to be too small to transfer these high currents.

    If you intend on pulling more than 300A of current across WIRE 1, you should add an additional run of 1/0 awg for each additional 300A of current you intend on pulling. So if you plan on pulling 600A, you would need two runs of 1/0 awg minimum. The more runs of 1/0 awg you have, the less voltage you can expect to lose due to resistance.

    WIRE 2

    This POS+ wire connects your amp(s) to your rear battery. This wire should be sized based on the input of your amp(s). If your amp has a 4 awg input, this should be a 4 awg wire. If your amp accepts 1/0 wire, then this should be a 1/0 awg wire.

    If you decide that it is better for your setup, you can choose to use a distribution block between the battery's POS+ post and the amps' POS+ inputs. Some people prefer to use a distro block, but it is easier in my mind to simply run the wire directly from the POS+ post to each amp, in effect using the battery as the distro block. There is no right or wrong here, it is up to you to decide.

    WIRE 3

    This NEG- wire connects the two batteries' negative posts. This wire size should be identical to the size (and quantity) of WIRE 1. So, if you have two runs of 1/0 awg being used for WIRE 1, then you will need two runs of 1/0 awg for WIRE 3 as well.

    Some people will argue that using the chassis instead of wire for your NEG- (grounds) connections is fine, but when you have multiple batteries, that is no longer going to be sufficient in most cases. If your car does not have one solid piece of steel running the length of the car, then you will have multiple pieces of steel that are welded together. Steel, as you well know, is a poor conductor when compared to copper (or other highly conductive metals). The conductivity of steel is highly reduced when welded together with another piece of steel. Imagine the weld as a speed bump.

    Now the other issue here that is frequently overlooked is that as you begin to draw more current over a conductor, the impedance will actually rise. So simply measuring the resistance of your chassis without a current draw is pointless.

    WIRE 4

    This NEG- wire is to connect the NEG- connections on your amp to the NEG- post of the rear battery. It is important that this wire matches the size (and quantity) of WIRE 2. Again, just like with WIRE 2, the size of this wire should be determined by your amps' inputs.

    Some people again would tell you to not wire this to the battery, but instead to the chassis. This would be OK if you did not have a rear battery and you had a very small amp. But since this discussion is assuming the rear battery is installed, you need to wire the NEG- connection for the amp directly to the battery.

    WIRE 5

    These wires are to ground each battery to the chassis for devices that may not have a NEG- wire running directly, but are still pulling power from the battery. A good example would be lights or other chassis grounded devices.

    One last wire that is not shown, but would fall under the WIRE 5 category would be a wire from the front battery NEG- post to the engine block. This in essence would be the NEG- wire to the alternator, since the engine block is electrically connected to the alternator. If your alternator in fact has a NEG- post, of course the wire should connect there and not at the engine block.

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    And now on to the fuses. Each fuse shown above serves a specific purpose. There are some people who live life on the edge and feel they are a waste of money. There are others who claim that they affect voltages in your vehicle. I am neither of these. I like feeling safe and secure knowing that my electrical system is protected by a fuse. These fuses will not only protect you from improper wiring, but also protect you in case of an accident that shorts out a POS+ wire. Also, good ANL fuses have very little added resistance, so the voltage drop across a fuse is usually not measurable.

    FUSE A

    This fuse should be located as close to the POS+ post of the front battery as possible. This fuse should be rated to match the current rating of WIRE 1. If you are using a single run of 1/0 awg wire for WIRE 1 and it is rated up to 300A, then FUSE A should be rated at the same 300A.

    What FUSE A does is protect your wire from transferring more current (amps) than it is rated for. In the case of a short circuit in the middle on WIRE 1, the front battery will try to push all of it's energy through WIRE 1 to that short. When this happens, the amount of current will exceed the fuse value and cause the fuse to blow. When the fuse blows, the short is alleviated and no more current will pass along WIRE 1 from the front battery.

    If the fuse would not have blown, the excessive amount of current would have exceeded the capacity of WIRE 1, which would have caused a fire.

    FUSE B

    This fuse does the exact same thing as FUSE A with the exception that it protects WIRE 1 from the current coming from the rear battery. If WIRE 1 were to be shorted, there is a potential for energy to flow from both batteries. A fuse on both ends of WIRE 1 is essential. Again it should be located as close to the POS+ post of the rear battery as possible.

    And there is no reason to use only one of these two fuses here on WIRE 1. If you don't have both FUSE A AND FUSE B, then you are not protected from a short. So don't think that having one of the two is going to help you. Unless you have both, you are not protected at all.

    FUSE C

    This fuse is intended to protect WIRE 2 from to much current. Just as with WIRE 1 and FUSE A & B, you are going to match FUSE C with the current rating of WIRE 2. So if your amp accepts 4 awg wire, WIRE 2 should be 4 awg. If your 4 awg wire is rated up to 125A, then FUSE C should be 125A.
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    Re: Dual battery wiring tutorial (and why)

    why the batterys gotta be yellow?



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    why the batterys gotta be yellow?
    No reason at all.




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    because yellow > all others

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    because yellow > all others

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    Re: Dual battery wiring tutorial (and why)

    what happens if you cant fit a huge battery under the hood? for exaample i can get a
    deka 9A34 under my hood, but not a 9A31. so if i put the 9A34 under the hood and the 9A31 in the back im taking the chance of draining both? so what do you do in my case?




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    Quote Originally Posted by jco1385 View Post
    because yellow > all others

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    Actually I used yellow so it would match >












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    I have Kinetiks and yt's is this a bad mix ? will it shorten battery life ?



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    Re: Dual battery wiring tutorial (and why)

    Quote Originally Posted by bread0710 View Post
    what happens if you cant fit a huge battery under the hood? for exaample i can get a
    deka 9A34 under my hood, but not a 9A31. so if i put the 9A34 under the hood and the 9A31 in the back im taking the chance of draining both? so what do you do in my case?
    Since they are the same type of battery and made by the same manufacturer, you would not see the infighting drain that others might see. In that case, they just would not last as long as two matching batteries.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Savag3 View Post
    I have Kinetiks and yt's is this a bad mix ? will it shorten battery life ?
    Yes. It will shorten the lifespan of the batteries.




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    Quote Originally Posted by loopkiller View Post
    Since they are the same type of battery and made by the same manufacturer, you would not see the infighting drain that others might see. In that case, they just would not last as long as two matching batteries.
    o ok i get it thanks




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    dam . . . so i should eliminate one or the other brand ?



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    Re: Dual battery wiring tutorial (and why)

    Quote Originally Posted by Savag3 View Post
    dam . . . so i should eliminate one or the other brand ?
    what i would do is get rid of the yellow top and run your system to see how bad the volt drops are. and if they are bad just get a kinetik that is equal to the yellow top




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    Re: Dual battery wiring tutorial (and why)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen_c View Post
    why the batterys gotta be yellow?
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    Good info loop.. Now I can send all the noobs I know here, since they don't seem to believe me.



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