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    Icon32 Wiring Help ???

    I have a JBL 600.1 amp, and I am considering getting either an Elemental Designs E12K or an Audiobahn AW1205Q. The audiobahn is a dual 2 ohm, could that handle 600 watts @ 1 ohm? If wired correctly? Or the Elematal I can get in a dual 2 ohm or dual 4 ohm at how many watts can that handle?


    I used to have the JBL 600.1 with a 12" Hollywood Excursion( I want to say max power 1400) but I'm not sure. I just want to get another subwoofer that will sound similar. The Excursion broke b/c of the lead wire being vibrated against by teh sub going in and out. The wires were frayed. I want to make sure this doesn't happen again.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.







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    Icon14 check this

    based on how ya asked ya question you cannot increase a sub power range by lowering it's impedance on the amp. Cause the amp only sees a resistor, the sub can care less about 8 ohms, 4 ohms or 1 ohm. the amp cares though. Basically you just want the amp two push the resistant current through the sub at it most effiecient rms. so a dvc is a good idea or multiple subs in parrellel. 300W rms @ 4ohms is on average 600W rms @ 2 ohms. as long as you don't stress the sub for to long it doesn't matter what impedance is used.




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    im using a jbl 1200.1 wired 2 ohm to both of my 12" K's, has been working fine....



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    Re: check this

    Originally posted by Quinn03
    based on how ya asked ya question you cannot increase a sub power range by lowering it's impedance on the amp. Cause the amp only sees a resistor, the sub can care less about 8 ohms, 4 ohms or 1 ohm. the amp cares though. Basically you just want the amp two push the resistant current through the sub at it most effiecient rms. so a dvc is a good idea or multiple subs in parrellel. 300W rms @ 4ohms is on average 600W rms @ 2 ohms. as long as you don't stress the sub for to long it doesn't matter what impedance is used.
    WTF???!!! ok, i know what i am talking about...and u even confused me! jac....don't listen to this kid. to your question....i believe you would be better off with th E12k...or if u want louder like u are talking about...go with the e15k!! But, yes...get the dual4ohm version and the you wire the voice coils in parallel to get a 2ohm load to the amp...and it can handle the 600 watts. Put a e15k in a 2.5-3 cube ported box w/600 watts and watch it pound...and u won't have to worry about the lead either...and they come with 3 year warranties!! nothing in their price range can come newhere near them. peace

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    p.s. if ya need a wiring diagram check
    http://edesignaudio.com/ep/wiring.htm
    then look for 1 dual4ohm and parallel!




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    still confused

    So was my last sub powered at 300 or 600 watts?




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    Icon33 yeah disregard the statement by me

    when i first wrote the response i thought you were talking about subwoofers but i looked at it again and I see your're not. MY FAULT!




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    subs

    I don't want to get a 15" sub b/c i already have a box for a 12". Won't the E12k blow b/c they're only 400 watts and I'd be powering it with 600 ???




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    well technically your actually pushing 700 cause the jbl's put out more than they say. if u go to the spec's on the ED k's it says anything up to like 900 rms. You shouldnt blow it, just watch your gains and dont play it for hours on end.



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    mgaidica

    where is the webpage that says 900 rms?

    and why do they only listed at 400 rms?

    (I'm not asking to be a smart%$$, I'm just new to audio)

    Thanks




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    Re: mgaidica

    Originally posted by Jaccrock
    where is the webpage that says 900 rms?

    and why do they only listed at 400 rms?

    (I'm not asking to be a smart%$$, I'm just new to audio)

    Thanks
    ok, 400 watts rms is a VERY conservative rating. i've talked to loyd (ed K guru) and he has said b4 that they can handle more...but it all depends on application also. you just don't want to go outradeously high...i belive 900watts is WAY too much. 6-700 watts is the max they should get for daily driver! u'll be fine with th ~650watts that the jbl puts out at 2ohms! peace

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    http://edesignaudio.com/ep/kts.htm

    scroll down "max. RMS"

    well anyway, yeh, i talked to lloyd about it once 2, he said they'll be fine..



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    Thanks

    Thanks for the help !




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