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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

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    Are you running yours at 2ohms?

    And after the phone call to them, the 1500's are not 0.5 ohm stable.. They said they upgraded some parts in the fx3000 to make it stable at 1ohm
    When I had one in there, I ran it at .5 ohm It would get crazy hot but still worked fine. That was before I knew they were two boards. lol

    Then when I added the second one, they were both 1 ohm each because they're not strappable.



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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Wow you ran that fx3000 at half ohm!!!

    That's like putting a 0.25 ohm load on each board inside. They must have made some good internal mods cuz a pure of audiopipe would never run that low!




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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    nooice!!!!



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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by akadj View Post
    Wow you ran that fx3000 at half ohm!!!

    That's like putting a 0.25 ohm load on each board inside. They must have made some good internal mods cuz a pure of audiopipe would never run that low!
    Haha yeah, which is why it has to be one of my most favorite budget amp.



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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by myjaja View Post
    lol

    I actually have a sundown ns-1 in there and voltage is better on that than those sonido amps. Those sonido amps were just put in there for the fun of it to see what they can do. Though they're not very efficient as you can see with the voltage drop.

    After getting my shipment of amps in you are absolutely correct that the FX-3000 draws a ton of current.

    I tested it and it puts out a clean 2500 RMS and hit a 150.1 dB's dropping to 10.2 volts Then I tossed in the ZX-2000 and it did a clean 1900 RMS and hit a 149.7 dB's only dropping to 11.5 volts. Then I tossed in my RD Audio 3250v2 and it did 3050 RMS clean and hit 150.8 dB's dropping to 11.5 volts.. Next is to test the FX-1500 and if it does OK then we will still carry some FX line but definitely not the 3000 as the ZX is not that much more money and is twice the amp in my opinion

    I also put in my Stetsom 7k2d 18v edition just for fun and it put out 6500 RMS clean and dropped to 10.1 volts and hit 152.9dbs




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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by akadj View Post
    After getting my shipment of amps in you are absolutely correct that the FX-3000 draws a ton of current.

    I tested it and it puts out a clean 2500 RMS and hit a 150.1 dB's dropping to 10.2 volts Then I tossed in the ZX-2000 and it did a clean 1900 RMS and hit a 149.7 dB's only dropping to 11.5 volts. Then I tossed in my RD Audio 3250v2 and it did 3050 RMS clean and hit 150.8 dB's dropping to 11.5 volts.. Next is to test the FX-1500 and if it does OK then we will still carry some FX line but definitely not the 3000 as the ZX is not that much more money and is twice the amp in my opinion

    I also put in my Stetsom 7k2d 18v edition just for fun and it put out 6500 RMS clean and dropped to 10.1 volts and hit 152.9dbs
    Yeah, they're not very efficient. They drew a lot of current in my car. Those ZX seems pretty decent. And wow, that rd amp seems pretty efficient. If you don't mind me asking, which subs were used and what ohm load?



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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Beast for sure;
    Any numbers with the ns1?




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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by myjaja View Post
    Yeah, they're not very efficient. They drew a lot of current in my car. Those ZX seems pretty decent. And wow, that rd amp seems pretty efficient. If you don't mind me asking, which subs were used and what ohm load?
    Atomic 15's with 818 motors dual 2 ohm wired to 0.5 ohm, with box rise its 1.18 ohms




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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by akadj View Post
    Atomic 15's with 818 motors dual 2 ohm wired to 0.5 ohm, with box rise its 1.18 ohms
    So that means you were running .25 ohm on the fx-3000 and all the other amps at .5 ohm before impedance rise. No wonder why it had a really bad drop. lol



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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    that is correct, but i look at the output after i get rise, i would like to get a bank of 1ohm 2ohm and 4 ohm resistors that can handle 10,000 watts so i dont have to rely on box rise although i know that it almost always goes to 0.9 to 1.2 ohms after rise on a single board amp depending on power, more power = less rise in my case anyways... and if i strap two amps together i get more box rise then running them separate at the same time, which makes sense since its would have to create a complete circuit between two boards and add more resistance.




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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by myjaja View Post
    So that means you were running .25 ohm on the fx-3000 and all the other amps at .5 ohm before impedance rise. No wonder why it had a really bad drop. lol
    I just tested the Sonido Mask FX-1500.1!! wow 2 of those little things would do way better than the FX-3000 which is just two of them strapped!!!, we will most definitely be retailing those AND the ZX series!!!

    so i did the test as i normally do with a starting impedance of 0.5 ohm (box rise to 1.2) I set the oscope to soft clip and the termlab running on the dash car sealed legit Db Drags style and let it burp!

    heres my clamped numbers...

    43.5 Volts AC
    35.8 Amps AC
    1557 watts RMS
    starting load 0.5 ohm
    box rise to 1.2 ohms
    starting DC voltage 14.61
    dropping DC voltage 12.88
    SPL 148 db's on the dash

    for $270.00 retail with warranty you cant lose.. at least not in Canada!! maybe you guys can get better deals without having to ship across the border?

    I'm uploading the video right now on youtube!




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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Blake. View Post
    Beast for sure;
    Any numbers with the ns1?
    Nope, not yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by akadj View Post
    I just tested the Sonido Mask FX-1500.1!! wow 2 of those little things would do way better than the FX-3000 which is just two of them strapped!!!, we will most definitely be retailing those AND the ZX series!!!

    so i did the test as i normally do with a starting impedance of 0.5 ohm (box rise to 1.2) I set the oscope to soft clip and the termlab running on the dash car sealed legit Db Drags style and let it burp!

    heres my clamped numbers...

    43.5 Volts AC
    35.8 Amps AC
    1557 watts RMS
    starting load 0.5 ohm
    box rise to 1.2 ohms
    starting DC voltage 14.61
    dropping DC voltage 12.88
    SPL 148 db's on the dash

    for $270.00 retail with warranty you cant lose.. at least not in Canada!! maybe you guys can get better deals without having to ship across the border?

    I'm uploading the video right now on youtube!
    That's pretty impressive for that little guy. Did over rated at 1.2 ohms; not bad at all. Only draw back is the efficiency but other than that, they're nice amps. That's also a good score off 1500 watts. I'm sure we do. lol



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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by myjaja View Post
    Nope, not yet.



    That's pretty impressive for that little guy. Did over rated at 1.2 ohms; not bad at all. Only draw back is the efficiency but other than that, they're nice amps. That's also a good score off 1500 watts. I'm sure we do. lol





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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    looking good...




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    Re: Sundown zv4's with budget amps! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by myjaja View Post
    Yeah, they're not very efficient. They drew a lot of current in my car. Those ZX seems pretty decent. And wow, that rd amp seems pretty efficient. If you don't mind me asking, which subs were used and what ohm load?
    JUST AN UPDATE

    Here's a video of the ZX-1500 on the SMD amp dyno





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