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    Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Our ETA is roughly the end of June on these; as always this can vary a bit based on parts supplier production times, transit times, customs times, etc. Based on our average shipping time that is our best estimate.

    That being said this pre-order will ONLY be open to the public until April 15th, 2013 -- OR until a given size / coil configuration sells 50% of the quantity being produced. I do not want to be out of stock instantly so we are running this much shorter than our other pre-orders.

    This pre-order is for the USA ONLY -- check with your distributor if you are outside of the USA; if you do NOT have a distributor in your country you can check with us. The below rates are shipping in the continental 48 states; e-mail us or your dealer for AK or HI pricing.

    Pricing as follows :

    PART # // REGULAR MAP // PRE-ORDER RATE

    X-10 (D2/D4) -- $329 -- $280
    X-12 (D2/D4) -- $349 -- $300
    X-15 (D2/D4) -- $389 -- $330
    X-18 (D2/D4) -- $409 -- $350

    You can pre-order from any participating local or online dealer OR directly with us via Paypal to sundownz@sundownaudio.com -- you MUST include a note stating EXACTLY what you are ordering.

    As is typical with a pre-order the sale is final ; make sure you are not placing yourself in a bad financial situation by pre-ordering. Do not pre-order if you are on a tight schedule ; the dates are NOT set in stone. An adjusted date is not considered a valid reason to request a pre-order refund. If you have ANY doubt about waiting or your financial situation DO NOT pre-order.

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    The X series is our 1250 RMS rated line -- they feature a 3" diameter CCAW round wire coil and our new frame, spider, surround, and cone platform. Linear x-max is around ~30mm one-way by 70% BL with a total mechanical clearance of 50mm in the motor.

    These woofers are designed excel in high output DAILY low frequency applications. If you are looking for a burp driver or a driver to excel on “higher” bass frequencies; this is NOT it. We will offer SPL burp style re-cone kits for them at a late date – but the stock format is not made for that.





















    * Z v.4 12 on the left and X-12 on the right.



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013




    * Z v.4 12 on the left and X-12 on the right.


    * New terminal blocks !






    * Essentially looks like a "mini-Z" style motor... 190mm magnet vs. 220mm on the Z series / 66mm tall stack vs. 75mm tall stack / thinner steel / less expensive round wire coil vs. flat wire in the Z, etc, etc.

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    Preliminary Specifications :
    ** The production models have a stiffer surround which will result in an FS about 5-10 Hz higher, higher Qts, etc. They will also have a slightly tighter gap which increases the BL a bit **

    X-10 D2:
    Re : 3.63 ohms
    Fs : 27.9 Hz (Stiffer Surround = 32 Hz)
    Qes : 0.43 (Stiffer Surround = 0.49)
    Qms : 4.7
    Qts : 0.39 (Stiffer Surround = 0.45)
    Le : 4.11 mH
    Sd : 366 cm^2
    Vas : 19.47 L
    BL : 21.67 NA
    Mms : 317 g
    Cms : 102 uM/N (Stiffer Surround = 75.16 uM/N)
    Sens : 81.66 dB 1w/1m

    X-10 D4:
    Re : 5.96 ohms
    Fs : 29. 15 Hz
    Qes : 0.54
    Qms : 5.26
    Qts : 0.49
    Le : 6.14 mH
    Sd : 366 cm^2
    Vas : 19.06 L
    BL : 24.45 NA
    Mms : 297 g
    Cms : 100 uM/N
    Sens : 81.14 dB 1w/1m

    X-12 D2:
    Re : 3.7 ohms
    Fs : 24.35 Hz
    Qes : 0.37
    Qms : 4.38
    Qts : 0.35
    Le : 3.76 mH
    Sd : 457 cm^2
    Vas : 38.02 L
    BL : 22.35 NA
    Mms : 333 g
    Cms : 127 uM/N
    Sens : 83.35 dB 1w/1m

    X-12 D4:
    Re : 5.84 ohms
    Fs : 26.43 Hz
    Qes : 0.48
    Qms : 4.48
    Qts : 0.43
    Le : 5.18 mH
    Sd : 457 cm^2
    Vas : 34.38 L
    BL : 25.16 NA
    Mms : 313 g
    Cms : 115 uM/N
    Sens : 82.96 dB 1w/1m

    X-15 D2:
    Re : 3.68 ohms
    Fs : 20.51 Hz
    Qes : 0.42
    Qms : 4.81
    Qts : 0.39
    Le : 4.00 mH
    Sd : 729 cm^2
    Vas : 107 L
    BL : 21.79 NA
    Mms : 422 g
    Cms : 142 uM/N
    Sens : 85.17 dB 1w/1m

    X-15 D4:
    Re : 5.78 ohms
    Fs : 20.88 Hz
    Qes : 0.52
    Qms : 4.94
    Qts : 0.47
    Le : 5.99 mH
    Sd : 729 cm^2
    Vas : 103 L
    BL : 24.85 NA
    Mms : 422 g
    Cms : 137 uM/N
    Sens : 84.34 dB 1w/1m

    X-18 D2:
    Data not available

    X-18 D4:
    Re : 5.85 ohms
    Fs : 20.5 Hz
    Qes : 0.57
    Qms : 5.61
    Qts : 0.52
    Le : 5.92 mH
    Sd : 1140 cm^2
    Vas : 237 L
    BL : 24.79 NA
    Mms : 470 g
    Cms : 128 uM/N
    Sens : 87.22 dB 1w/1m

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    PHYSICAL SPECIFICATIONS :







    Last edited by sundownz; 03-19-2013 at 07:29 AM.



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Would these take my SAZ 3500, gains set correctly. in a proper box all day long? As in, would I be able to give them everything the amp has to offer?




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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    What size boxes are these looking for? They look great. Gives them a much diff look than every other company. If insurance doesnt total out my ride i may switch out the hdc3's for 4 of these 12's



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by TheycallmeJT View Post
    What size boxes are these looking for? They look great. Gives them a much diff look than every other company. If insurance doesnt total out my ride i may switch out the hdc3's for 4 of these 12's
    Wtf happened




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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by 04murdalanche View Post
    Wtf happened
    I shall post pics for you in the build log with descripsion



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by 04murdalanche View Post
    Would these take my SAZ 3500, gains set correctly. in a proper box all day long? As in, would I be able to give them everything the amp has to offer?
    For a pair of them ?

    The coil is 3" unit (76.2mm) with a WW of 60-65mm depending on the impedance; this is a very large coil.

    As with our other lines the ratings are done conservatively in a worst possible case scenario; it would be very difficult to damage a pair of them on a 3500D.

    ---------- Post added at 10:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:12 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by TheycallmeJT View Post
    What size boxes are these looking for? They look great. Gives them a much diff look than every other company. If insurance doesnt total out my ride i may switch out the hdc3's for 4 of these 12's
    The 12s can work in as small 1.75 to 2 cubes or as much as 3 cubes. The larger enclosure will allow you to take advantage of more of the excursion capacity with less power.



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Great news to hear!




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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Beautiful T/S on these, eyeballing that 15.



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    i have a sp4 man but just the look of the new sundown subs, the surround..makes me want to buy them..**** man beautiful sub. that is truly what a mans sub is supposed to look like



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    So just to be clear. These are only good for low frequency music like rap/dupstep/bass tracks? Are you saying they will not sound very good when playing rock/metal with them? Or did I misunderstand your OP on that?



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by gamehawk55 View Post
    So just to be clear. These are only good for low frequency music like rap/dupstep/bass tracks? Are you saying they will not sound very good when playing rock/metal with them? Or did I misunderstand your OP on that?
    probably won't sound too good for rock... based off the size of that excursion it definitely has a focus on the lows



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    A woofer having a high excursion does not mean it will not play rock music; that is not at all what I am saying either.

    They simply are not going to be your first choice for an SPL type woofer at higher frequencies; nor do they accentuate the higher frequency range as some drivers do. They will be very flat outside of a vehicle and accentuate the lower frequencies when placed in a car.



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by sundownz View Post
    A woofer having a high excursion does not mean it will not play rock music; that is not at all what I am saying either.

    They simply are not going to be your first choice for an SPL type woofer at higher frequencies; nor do they accentuate the higher frequency range as some drivers do. They will be very flat outside of a vehicle and accentuate the lower frequencies when placed in a car.
    But if you are playing metal with 16th note kick drums are these going to be able to play that accurately or will it turn into a muddled mess when playing that kind of music on these subs?



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    Re: Sundown X Series 10/12/15/18 Pre-Order : ETA June 2013

    I currently have 2 SA8v2 D2 and they do alright on that kind of music but sometimes its just too quick and can't separate the notes properly. Not sure if its just the box or the driver.



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