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    Re: Z v.4 15" Prototype Built Up

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    The SA will not get these frames ; they simply cost too much and wouldn't give us a good benefit to cost ratio.

    I've been discussing on Facebook a bit of releasing an "SA Ultra" model in 10/12/15 sizes that is about $50 bucks more that has about 33% more linear x-max, 20% higher motor force, a 25% higher thermal rating, around 1/2 the at-rest inductance, thicker magnet ID shorting ring, and newly tooled spiders and surrounds with expanding excursion capability. We would eventually tool a basket more similar to the SA-8 v.2 for this line but for at least a year would be sold with the 4-spoke frame as it still works out for the design.

    We would keep the current SA line on board, simply doing slow tweaks as we have been for years, as so many folks like them and like the price point as well.
    That sounds like a fine idea.







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    Re: Z v.4 15" Prototype Built Up

    You people complaining about the price should come see how much car audio gear costs in Australia. You've had it too good for so long in the US that now the dollar isn't so high and construction is being outsourced overseas you feel the pinch everyone else does. For instance I for one think $500 is bloody cheap and I'm going to be paying exorbitant freight fees on top of the price when I purchase my 15" Z4 due to having no dealer in Australia. I couldn't get a sub with half this quality and performance at a local store even with our dollar beating the US dollar. Just food for thought.




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    Re: Z v.4 15" Prototype Built Up

    I'm pretty excited. This may be my formal introduction to Sundown.



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    Re: Z v.4 15" Prototype Built Up

    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    I'm pretty excited. This may be my formal introduction to Sundown.
    Just cuz that surround reminds you of a Ti




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    Re: Z v.4 15" Prototype Built Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettr n' Revrse View Post
    Just cuz that surround reminds you of a Ti
    I love the attention he's giving the motor and the linear behavior of the design as a whole!



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: Z v.4 15" Prototype Built Up

    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    I love the attention he's giving the motor and the linear behavior of the design as a whole!
    Tiz true... I just took the Sundown plunge with the new SD-2's as well




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    Re: Z v.4 15" Prototype Built Up

    Any updates on when they might be released and also what's the total weight of a 18"



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    Re: Z v.4 15" Prototype Built Up

    Quote Originally Posted by manosteel916 View Post
    Any updates on when they might be released and also what's the total weight of a 18"
    Production starts soon; so about 90 days from that point.

    They are ~65 lbs or so.



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