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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    In for nightshade v3/Zv4 comparison pic.






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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    ^^^ me too. i want to know if there will be a nightshade 10 with the new parts...



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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Risen View Post
    ^^^ me too. i want to know if there will be a nightshade 10 with the new parts...
    Theoretically the motor will fit in the hole if it's cut perfect as our cut-out is just @ the motor size of the NS v.3 (250mm) -- but speaker wires won't fit unless you notch the hole. I may consider offering them.

    I have an early NS v.3 motor but based on testing of the new frames I need to add more clearance to it -- and I will be offering a HUGE array of options for it that we've never done before (all functional to tailor it to various apps).



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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    I really would like to get my hands on that 10"... Really, really, really.... really.










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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    Quote Originally Posted by sundownz View Post
    Theoretically the motor will fit in the hole if it's cut perfect as our cut-out is just @ the motor size of the NS v.3 (250mm) -- but speaker wires won't fit unless you notch the hole. I may consider offering them.

    I have an early NS v.3 motor but based on testing of the new frames I need to add more clearance to it -- and I will be offering a HUGE array of options for it that we've never done before (all functional to tailor it to various apps).
    that would be pretty sick, and that says a lot about those baskets with what that v.3 motor was doing when you tested it before...



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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    My camera was dead this morning -- charged it up and took this video over lunch today:

    Z v.4 10" Model Prototype Test - YouTube



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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    How large of a dustcap can you fit inside the surround.



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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    Drool



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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    It's gonna be like a Black Friday in a Walmart when these are released....



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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    Quote Originally Posted by sundownz View Post
    My camera was dead this morning -- charged it up and took this video over lunch today:

    Z v.4 10" Model Prototype Test - YouTube
    O_O my bozak, it tingles with desire.. I had planned to run 2 12"s on a 3500, but with that new uhh "power handling" I just might need an old 4500.. or **** it.. I bet an NS1 wouldn't hurt 2 @1ohm




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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    wow ya went blair witch on the first part of the vid, my eyes hurt,lol.

    it looks good Jake. ur rite the ti is a nice basket the prob is where the holes are for terms or direct leads ****!




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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    Amazing



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    reminds me of the earthquake holees



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    Re: Z v.4 10" Prototype : 2nd Woofer New Parts

    Got the 10" Z v.4 motor charged up to run specs on it -- so here we are (D2 coil) :

    RE : 3.42 (series)
    Fs : 29.4 Hz
    Qes : 0.324
    Qms : 4.61
    Qts : 0.302
    Le : 3.68 mH
    Sd : 366 cm^2
    BL : 24.85 NA
    Mms : 316 g
    Cms : 92.41 uM/N
    Sens : 83.16 dB - 1w/1m
    BL^2/RE : 180.56

    For production the top plate ID is going to move OUT a bit (wider gap) to prevent damage in the case of excessive excursion (which is how I damaged the 12" prototype) -- this will reduce BL by a small margin but the Z v.4 motor force factor is still in excess of the v.3 version so it's a non-issue

    All in all I think these specs are on target with what customers want -- compared to the v.3 we have :

    1) Lower FS in stock format
    2) Higher motor force
    3) Higher thermal power handling (v.3 10/12 use a shorter coil than 15/18 -- v.4 use the same 15/18 coil in all sizes)
    4) Higher mechanical power handling and thus more forgiveness of larger boxes (current 10s are very picky on small boxes)

    So I think folks will be extremely pleased when these hit the market.



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