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    Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    I did some early prototyping around this time last year on some mid-level sets and they were quite good, IMO... I decided to re-evaluate them a bit based on the listening I've had with them since that time.

    I received the first early prototype of the new mid-level set a few days ago and I will be replacing the 2011 prototypes in my car with these soon.

    The biggest change is the cone material... for a set like this that crosses over higher I prefer a paper base vs. the composite base (woven material) that the other set utilized.

    The set is NOT done as I plan to modify the frame on the mid as well as the motor ventilation. There will be no fancy eye-candy to the set -- very basic cosmetically with as much focus on the actual sound as possible.

    Once I finalize the details I will talk more about the pricing level on them. For the level of sound quality that I am shooting for it will be very fair.

    Here are the photos of the early set :


    * The crossovers use an "open tool" plastic housing but do offer some nice features; 12, 6, or full range slope on the mid LPF and also 0, -3, and -6 tweeter level adjustment. The grilles will remain a very basic model that offers good protection with little sonic interference.


    * Fairly standard silk dome tweeter; no frills but a nice sounding unit that is not harsh.


    * I really like this cone material... very smooth and natural sound.


    * This basket and motor are not vented at all on this early set -- that will change for thermal and acoustic reasons.


    * High quality spider with tight weave utilized

    I will work on the packaging a little bit but I don't plan to make it super fancy and waste money where there is no performance gain to be had.

    Once I feel the design is final I will be able to give an ETA -- as of now I cannot give one.







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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    when are you putting them in your VW?



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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    All function, no fashion baby. Hopefully you dont feel the same about your women though ^_6



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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    Look great man, glad you're coming out with some . Any possibility of them having an empty middle to turn it into a coax? Not sure what the technical term is for that particular mod.



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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    About time you get working on some components. What sort of power range are these being designed towards?

    Head's up for an email coming your way.




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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    Sweet. I wantz! Hoping for under $200.



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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)



    Here is the frame I will be using on the set (cast aluminum) -- as I said initially this first prototype is mainly to test / verify the cone material performs like I want it to. This frame is only a few millimeters deeper than the stamped unit... total depth is going to be about ~66mm which is 2.59"

    I am also thickening the back plate, doing some small motor modifications, and adding ventilation to the back plate as well to help relieve pressure / back-wave reflections and to keep coil temperatures down.

    I'll be putting the initial set in my car shortly... then I will be getting the revised midranges as quickly as possible. Once I verify everything we should be ready to roll soon after on production assuming it all checks out in my testing.

    Also... I expect MAP price from a dealer to come in under $200

    ---------- Post added at 09:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:03 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Goindef154 View Post
    Look great man, glad you're coming out with some . Any possibility of them having an empty middle to turn it into a coax? Not sure what the technical term is for that particular mod.
    I am not planning to make this set a "convertible" (as some mfg call it)

    I may do a dedicated coax later, though.

    ---------- Post added at 09:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by hispls View Post
    About time you get working on some components. What sort of power range are these being designed towards?

    Head's up for an email coming your way.
    Likely rated for ~125 RMS




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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    i see you selling many sets ,stock up




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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    That is the plan! Lots of pent up demand as folks have been on us for years to make a component set. The time is right now, though, I think




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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    Quote Originally Posted by sundownz View Post
    Lots of pent up demand as folks have been on us for years to make a component set

    Yes I have!!...oophs...did I type that outloud..hehehehehe



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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    Making some progress on the finalized mid... the cone material turned out great on the first sample so we've moved onto the rest of the details :


    * Cone mounted on the new frame


    * Side view with the cast frame


    * Gap venting implemented... the finish is NOT final it is only for sampling.


    * The final finish will be smooth with chrome plating... will look VERY nice and also will be very corrosion resistant.




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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    looking good.



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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    Me like.



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    Re: Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

    Response graphs of the mid (with off axis) and the tweeter -- the thick vertical line represents the crossover frequency. As you can see it is very appropriate on this set to get a nice response from both drivers :



    We will measure them in my car too once the new mid arrives.




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