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    midbass for horns

    I recently won an auction for a pair of ID cd2 comp horns for $331 after shipping. I'm pumped and hope they are not busted and actually arrive! But, in the meantime I'm looking for midbass drivers that will hopefully attempt to keep up with the horns.

    I plan on getting 4 midbass drivers mounted in kicks, or kicks doors. I know that is an imaging nightmare, but I look foward to the install challenge.

    I was looking at the CDT 6.5" midbass/midrange driver with "controlled" dispersion and it looks really intriguing. It looks like it might fit the bill for me. The rave reviews say that it's flat, neutral and has excellent imaging -- everything I'm looking for. Anyone have any experience with the CDT 6.5" midbass - 2kHz capabilities? $400 bucks for 2 pair

    I also looked into scanspeak, vifa and morel drivers. The problem is that a lot of the drivers that look good to me are weird ohms, like 5.7 or 5.5 or something like that.


    for these drivers, you can find info and specs on them at www.madisound.com in their catalog and pdf files within the catalog

    I like the vifa:
    PL18WO09-04 a 7" driver. if this is truly 4ohms, this is nice and has a good price tag too at $65 bucks each. $260 for 4 of them -- it's priced right

    scanspeak:
    18W/5535A a 7" driver. these are 4 ohms, but more pricey than all the other things I'm looking at. They also seem to have killer midbass response and have the longest excursion that I know of, 5.5 mm but at a price of around $120 each, the total is $480

    morel:
    H6.1 is a 6" driver. Seem to have very good midbass response and priced decently at $80 each and have decent sensitivity of 91 dB 1w/m. The only thing I really don't like about these is that they have a dc resistance of 5.6 ohms and xmax of 3.5mm.

    Could you guys steer me in the right direction? I'm having such trouble deciding and I just don't know enough about what really matters in midbass/midrange to make a solid decision. I thought that I could use 6 in total, 3 a side of the H6.1 morels to get roughly a 2 ohm load, but, talk about install problems and imaging hell... I'd have to mount a pair in the doors and 2 pairs in the kicks... yikes... my frontstage would look cool though!



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    Soundstream Tarantula (for subs)
    Precision Power PCX-4125 (for horns and midbasses)
    Image Dynamics CD2 comp mini horns
    Scan-Speak 7" 18W/5535A midbasses
    Subs still pending.




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    i would try 1 set first..i used an idq 8 with awesome results the vifa is a good driver as well..just remember this..the simplier the better less problems in imaging......... i wouldnt put a cdt driver to them maybe a morel and the seas drivers look pretty sweet



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    Originally posted by audiolife
    ......... i wouldnt put a cdt driver to them maybe a morel and the seas drivers look pretty sweet
    Uhh, which seas driver?

    and, why wouldn't you put a cdt to them?



    DEX-P9 (headunit)
    DEQ-P9 (30band eq L/R, time alignment, 36dB/oct 4 way crossover)
    Soundstream Tarantula (for subs)
    Precision Power PCX-4125 (for horns and midbasses)
    Image Dynamics CD2 comp mini horns
    Scan-Speak 7" 18W/5535A midbasses
    Subs still pending.

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    hmm its sorta hard to put a finger on it..have you heard your type of horn? have you heard the cdt? now mix it



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    You pay for scan-speak, but what you get is top of the line...

    The vifa option has been noted to have an awesome natural rolloff...




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    where do you get scan speak? gimme some info i hear about them from time to time...also what is the deal with the new line from japan ampman audio is bringing in? they just a cdt knockoff or the actuall makers or are they somethin else?
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    Originally posted by jlaine
    You pay for scan-speak, but what you get is top of the line...

    The vifa option has been noted to have an awesome natural rolloff...

    I'm not exactly sure what you mean by an awesome natural rolloff. Does that mean as the frequency response gets lower and lower, it keeps up with the rest of the spectrum?

    and, the scan speak driver, the one that is meant for autosound that I picked out is a nice driver?

    thanks for all the help, guys.



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    Soundstream Tarantula (for subs)
    Precision Power PCX-4125 (for horns and midbasses)
    Image Dynamics CD2 comp mini horns
    Scan-Speak 7" 18W/5535A midbasses
    Subs still pending.

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    i owed 2 sets of vifa speakers as midbasses for a horn set ... very nice.. came in the car and it took second in the world



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    Originally posted by audiolife
    i owed 2 sets of vifa speakers as midbasses for a horn set ... very nice.. came in the car and it took second in the world
    would you happen to know which particular model? =)



    DEX-P9 (headunit)
    DEQ-P9 (30band eq L/R, time alignment, 36dB/oct 4 way crossover)
    Soundstream Tarantula (for subs)
    Precision Power PCX-4125 (for horns and midbasses)
    Image Dynamics CD2 comp mini horns
    Scan-Speak 7" 18W/5535A midbasses
    Subs still pending.

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    off hand no lol ..yellow cone with a bullet dust cap



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    do you know if they are 4ohms or 8 ohms each?

    I see one called MG18WK09-08(04) and it's a fiberglass cone woofer with a kind of shiny domed dust cap, not really pointy shaped like phase plugs usually are. Are these 7" speakers?

    anyway, if this is the case, they're only like 52 bucks each! doesn't make it bad though, all the better...



    DEX-P9 (headunit)
    DEQ-P9 (30band eq L/R, time alignment, 36dB/oct 4 way crossover)
    Soundstream Tarantula (for subs)
    Precision Power PCX-4125 (for horns and midbasses)
    Image Dynamics CD2 comp mini horns
    Scan-Speak 7" 18W/5535A midbasses
    Subs still pending.

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    actually if memory serves was 6 ohms i do believe now if im wrong its an 8 that measured 6



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    Kinetik 1400HC
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    dynamat extreme

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