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    NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    Okay I was looking to gettin' either a brand new 13.5" JL W7 or looking to get 2 12" Kicker S12 L7's. Which is the better buy? I want a hard hitting system and money isn't a factor for me. But if you guys know anything even better then either one of those two then please tell me...I was gonna just stick with getting the JL with a 1000/1 amp. Please give me your suggestions it will be greatly appreciated!







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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    if you are going ported, get the L7's they will be LOUD if you tune it properly... have enough airspace, all that good stuff.




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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    L7s in a big ported box will deff hit harder. The w7's will embarrass the L7's in SQ



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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    ^^^^^^^^ doubt it as in totally outclass??? L7's can be set up for just SQ also. they can sound good too. but they were made to play LOUD.




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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    those odd square subs and their corners cause undesirable distortion



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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    Quote Originally Posted by awinter
    those odd square subs and their corners cause undesirable distortion



    right... i'll bet you've never owned one. have you done extensive testing to prove that the L7's have considerably MORE distortion compared to round subwoofers?? do you have extensive proof?? i doubt it. or are you on the bandwagon that kicker automatically sounds bad... i bet you are




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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    my friend has 2 12L7's in his avalanche. loud as **** but much distortion compared to other round subs i have heard



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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    Quote Originally Posted by awinter
    my friend has 2 12L7's in his avalanche. loud as **** but much distortion compared to other round subs i have heard


    oh... well your friends system must be exactly like every other L7 setup out there


    again, i doubt it. this is the problem with the world. because 1 friend has 1 setup that probably sounds like *** because of user error, they are all bad??? no thats not how it works. kicker can sound good. but you are right, its made to be loud. JL w7's were made to sound good. and probably would sound better yes. but, kicker can sound good too. just like w7's can be loud also.



    p.s.... i bet next you were thinking of saying you had more than just 1 friend with kicker L7 setups and they all sound like crap




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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    if money aint a factor why not go with two w7's?

    i would go with w7 personally cause even though it isnt the louder one in this case it still hits pretty loud but sq is just as important amd JL has some good SQ in almost anytype of setup.



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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    i'd go with jl. my friend has jl system and it's really nice.




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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    Quote Originally Posted by ndnbolla
    if money aint a factor why not go with two w7's?


    lol, makes sense... thats what he should do.




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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

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    lol, makes sense... thats what he should do.
    of course he will have to get another 1000/1 to get full potential outta both but i dont think it should matter to him.



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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    nope only 1 friend that has L7's. Im sure theres setups where L7's sound pretty clean but in my experience I havent heard any like that. And if money isnt a factor then picking up another 1000/1 shouldnt be a problem



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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    Quote Originally Posted by awinter
    nope only 1 friend that has L7's. Im sure theres setups where L7's sound pretty clean but in my experience I havent heard any like that.

    are you noticing what i'm noticing??? what exactly is your "experience" with kicker L7's... lol. your friends 1 setup. 1 friggin setup. you see what im' gettin at here??? your friends setup doesnt sound like all other setups my friend FYI.




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    Re: NEED HELP!!!! JL or Kicker?

    Quote Originally Posted by awinter
    ... And if money isnt a factor then picking up another 1000/1 shouldnt be a problem

    man this guy is full of all sorts of good advice. its like he had to say something, and thats all he could come up with, and after someone just mentioned the idea of money not being a factor.

    Quote Originally Posted by awinter
    those odd square subs and their corners cause undesirable distortion
    yea its probably the square shape and the corners that cause distortion, is he retarded? maybe its cause you convinced your friend that you were some car audio expert and he let you change his amp settings.
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