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    too little power bad?

    Would it be bad if I hooked up a Orion HCCA 225R amp (400wrms) to a RE SX that wants 1000wrms? This would only be for a couple of weeks. I hear its bad to grossly underpower and grossly overpower but would this effect the sub when I put a Memphis 1000d amp on it later?



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    Re: too little power bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by oryan20xx
    Would it be bad if I hooked up a Orion HCCA 225R amp (400wrms) to a RE SX that wants 1000wrms?


    do you talk to your subwoofer??? did it tell you it wants 1000 watts RMS??


    its not a bad thing..... you cant actually under power a subwoofer. you can overpower, but not under power




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    Re: too little power bad?

    I agr3ee with both statements




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    Re: too little power bad?

    yep. you will be fine. but if the amp starts to clip, and the power resulting increases and ****s up the amp because you turn the gain\bassboost\volume up real high to compensate for less power.

    then yes - your sub can break with a "lower powered" amp.




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    Re: too little power bad?

    I heard that if you don't play full volume (to give full RMS), it'll break your sub...

    I also heard SEARCH would bring up a huge discussion about this.



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    Re: too little power bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by `pr0digy
    I heard that if you don't play full volume (to give full RMS), it'll break your sub...

    I also heard SEARCH would bring up a huge discussion about this.
    no. if your amp is clipping- it can produce twice the amout of power than its RMS, and in turn double the power may be too much for the sub, and therefore break the thing (thermally or mechanically)

    but, if you have a 200w amp clipped to 500w (this is extreme) and the sub is a RE SX 15 - take 1000w easy, it will just give you a really shtity sounding bass.

    so no. underpowering will not ever break a sub (this depends on the box its in because the box determines the RMS just as much as the speaker does)




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    Re: too little power bad?

    if you lower your volume, in effect, your sub will have less power going through as opposed to a louder volume state. hence, no, less power in essence will not destroy anything.



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    Re: too little power bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by req
    no. if your amp is clipping- it can produce twice the amout of power than its RMS, and in turn double the power may be too much for the sub, and therefore break the thing (thermally or mechanically)

    but, if you have a 200w amp clipped to 500w (this is extreme) and the sub is a RE SX 15 - take 1000w easy, it will just give you a really shtity sounding bass.

    so no. underpowering will not ever break a sub (this depends on the box its in because the box determines the RMS just as much as the speaker does)
    I think that was sarcasm req




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    Re: too little power bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Termlab
    do you talk to your subwoofer??? did it tell you it wants 1000 watts RMS??


    its not a bad thing..... you cant actually under power a subwoofer. you can overpower, but not under power

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    Re: too little power bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jmac
    You must also understand that a square wave causes the cone to move violently and maintain full excursion for greater durations, which adds to the mechanical and thermal stress ...

    In other words, a 300 watt amp operating at full clipping (600 watts) is more damaging than a 600 watt amp operating at 600 watts (no clipping) ...
    that too. so be careful ****it! and turn those gains down!




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    Re: too little power bad?

    enlcosure size is another variable here...lowering the system's Q will result in Xmax being reached with less power than in a smaller box.




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    Re: too little power bad?

    you can def screw up a subwoofer using a small amp or cheap amp turned up high. especially when running lower impedances such as pretty much anything below 2 ohm. the more you turn up your amp and the more you push that amp to make that speaker hit harder, the more distortion goes to the speaker. tons of speakers are blown by either ****** amps or little amps trying to be the little engine that could on a massive subwoofer. I wouldnt turn it up too high because i had an hcca 12d and my ******* blew it because i tried to run the amp too hard and it wasnt big enough so the distortion screwed me up. but the old school hcca line has been known to put out much more power than orion says they do. Thats why they are known in competition as "cheater" amps. before they merged with "directed electronics" they constantly underrated their power. That is not going to sound like 400 watts when you hook it up i garuntee, it will drop as low as .5 i garuntee, and that RE subs are pretty well built. i dont think it will be a problem but keep the amp down to break in the sub and get the surround a little softer before you start pounding it with a monster amp. I'd put a xenon 1200.1 on that ***** and whether u like it or not, your car will be loud as hell! phoenix golds xenon amps will do the same power at 1-4 ohm so if its a dual 2 ohm, u can wire it at 4 ohm series and still get 1200, or if its a dual 4 ohm u can parallel it to drop down to 2 ohms and that xenon will do what it needs to do.
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