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    Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    Box is 2.5 cubes tuned to just below 30hz
    Power will be approx 1100 watts from a Memphis Belle

    Which would you choose and why?
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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    critical mass is way too over priced and i wasn't impressed by them....




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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    Well through trading some stuff and something going wrong with a vendor here, both subs cost me the same amount dollar wise.

    I can't believe it left you disappointed. Why so?



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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    output wasn't the greatest, felt cheaply made with the plastic, don't get me wrong... nice sub just not what i expected from the """worlds greatest sub"""

    and when i say output isn't the greatest just means when i say 5000w this sub isn't what i pictured... but if they are the same price i'd probably go with the ul12




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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    If you can get the UL 12 for cheap, if nothing else get it and if you don't like it, flip it for a profit. They sell really well and fast on eBay when priced right. I haven't ever had or heard one of their subs but I used to have a set of their 6x9's and loved them. Amazing output and didn't break up at any power level and volume.




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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    I got it. For now im going to run it instead of the LMS-R. If at some point down the line I hear another LMS-R or decide to try out my own then Ill sell it.



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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    they go for grands on ebay so whatever you decide to sell it for you'd make profit and fast if you sold it at a fair price.....




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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    Nice...this one has made a few rounds here. Even has a nice recone on it from PSI so you don't have to see that absurd "5000" on the stock dust cap.



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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    i hated the dust cap... they put in work... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...54176721,d.aWc




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    complete budget system under 400.00... (kenwoods)
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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    I say the critical mass ul12




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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    In reality, the UL12 should have an edge over the LMS-R. Anybody see what's going on in that motor?




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    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    In reality, the UL12 should have an edge over the LMS-R. Anybody see what's going on in that motor?

    oh, i believe it will get the tc hands down....




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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    Awesome that's more or less what I wanted to know. Like I said I will end up getting the UL12 for around the price of a used LMS-R.



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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    I wouldn't say hands down. LMS is no joke when it comes to low distortion, and the output is satisfying. I believe the UL12 should have an advantage when it comes to being a bit louder, though.



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    Re: Critical Mass UL12 vs TC Sounds LMS-R

    I use to be sponsored by Critical mass in 2007, when crx's were the thing in street B spl. I found that, for a SQ sub UL12 could get pretty loud. I was waiting for the UL10, but they never produced it. They said there was no market for it. I have hered every SQ sub out there, and I believe the UL12 tops them all. Now for it to be a true 2.5kw RMS sub....not close. But it sure can hang with the big boys. Especially being created as a SQ sub. If I was still into Car audio and I wanted a pure SQ system....UL12 would be my choice.



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