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    Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    How big of a deal is cone material? Like some of the rockfords, which ive known to be pretty good stuff, use a paper/cardboard looking material, whereas other brands use plastic or aluminum or carbon fiber or something. Now what is the benifit? This guy at a local audio store was discouraging me from fosgates because they are paper cones. He was telling me to go with some coustic carbon fiber woofers. so what does it all boild down to with cones? would the new punch woofers (P312d2) be better than the older style punches because of their aluminum cones?







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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    flexing is not a good thing with cones. It needs to be rigid. But at the same time, a heavy cone material might make the sub "lazy", so to speak.

    Personally, I can't really tell if one sub cone is made of paper, and the other is titanium jsut by listening to it.

    I guess what we really need to do is to get a sub, then have two diff cones with the same motor. Somehow I feel there's no real way to tell.

    There are some poeple in Korea who have tried to tell me the various difference in sound betwwen different cone material, but i say screw that, get what you like.

    RF subs aren't really favoured amongst the crowd that prefer tight, punchy bass.



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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    From my experiece, a tightly pressed injected paper cone that is still lightweight is the best way to go. Paper is the most natural sounding substance that the cone can be made out of. When you start to get into Kevlar and such, you really won't notice too much of a difference, but when you get into aluminum's you may notice that the bass sounds different. Those aluminum's usually tend to be extremely brief on the notes they produce. The ones I have heard produce kind of a "sting" sound.



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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    Me likes paper




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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Incriminator
    Me likes paper
    Me likes Death Penalties.
    Can I have some?



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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    Yes thats what i want! tight punchy bass! Like i like the subs to hit on the beat of the song, then thats it. On my last set up, which was pretty mild (2 infiniti 12's, 1 bazooka 500 amp- 300 @2 ohm) i had the x-over on the amp adjusted all the way so it would hit just on the beat. i dont really like the sound of when it sort of just vibrates , making a low sound in between beats. What subs would you all recommend.




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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    SOmetimes it's not jst the subs. The box might have a large affect on how the sub will perform.

    If you want punchy bass, tight, i say get a decent sub and run it in a sealed box. I run a ported, but am thinking very seriously about sealing it.

    The current fad seems to be on RE's, but they seem a lil geared towards SPL than SQ. (Chill guys, I said a lil)

    My personal fave (yes, I am still biased) is eD drivers. Their current preorder prices on the new K driver, come on, you really can't beat them. 15" for $100 and no more T-joints.



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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    i think the SExxx is one of the most balanced SQ/SPL subs i've heard.....can't be beat for the price i paid authorized with warranty. it hits all the notes perfectly, but still pounds pretty **** hard when you throw Late Night Tip in there. :thumbsup




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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    my favorite is aluminum, light, stiff and accurate





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    Re: Cones- Paper vs Plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber etc

    ^^ I like aluminum as well.....but my favorite is treated paper.

    Nothing but natural.



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