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    Kicker vs what else? Upgrading from Kicker Comp 12

    Hello.

    I am going to upgrade.
    i have a series of questions and will ask here.


    Info about car: Nissan Primera P11 1997 GT. Its a enclosed trunk. (sorry english)
    Current Setup 2x Kicker comp 12 (150wrms 300wmax) bought with case
    picture: www.vminnovations.com/sys/resource.ashx?guid=402a73368fcd48a5afc308a92cb04bf 9&w=600&h=600&p=10&x=07DC124.jpg


    These subs run on a ''Lanzar'' Amp.
    I dont know too much about this amp, i got it with the car, and its a amp from the 90's.
    Ive been told that these was premium back then and very good.
    The amp is 400wrms, i think it is two or four channel.
    its serial connected and i get 400wrms.
    I am thinking maybe the amp is old and thats why i dont feel confy enough with my setup?
    would i get much of a difference getting a modern amp?

    I might consider having a new amp, because im planning getting new subs too.


    my plan here, is to use the same case for the new sub(s)
    The only thought i had so far was getting one Kicker L7 or doubble L3's.
    Just a thought. Then i found out that people say kicker is really overpriced.

    i am looking for a good sound and a sub capable of playing the bass at higher notes very well withouth loosing the ''move air'' feeling.
    I dont know how to explain. But i need to really feel the sub. And the sub must be able to play well at higher freq's.
    I listen to music that have very variating bass and i want good power at all ranges.

    I am not a ''subwoofer'' enthusiast, so im not buying this just to show of my bass.
    I have good speakers and can play loud in my car, my problem with my current setup is that if i play very loud, the sub stops and cant go higher while speakers do.
    also these subs doesnt make me feel good if you know what i mean.
    i need to feel those vibes.



    So lets say, i already thought of getting a L3, the L7 is too expensive for me, for the price of the L3, what other sub can i get instead giving much more power for the same price and same or better quality?


    any tips on build?







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    Re: Kicker vs what else? Upgrading from Kicker Comp 12

    I have found 50% off on
    ''JBL MS-12SD2'' 450rms 1800wmax.

    I have decided getting one of these on my lanzar opti oldskool amp.
    if im not happy i will get another one and buy a 1000rms amp.

    should this be considered good power?




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    Re: Kicker vs what else? Upgrading from Kicker Comp 12

    For the money i wont go with Kicker.

    There is a new company called C2 audio that has a very good price on their beefy subs, are you shipping this internationally?

    if you need an inexpensive amp, you can get the audiopipe APSM 1500 around $125 and should be able to run a paid of any 600 watt subs, these C2 are beefier and have a bigger voice coil than the other subs in its category.

    good luck pm me if you have any questions


    Threatcon 2 with 3 inch voice coil Sub 12" very beefy 600watt $129

    C2 Audio Threatcon-2


    Specifications:
    12" Threatcon-2 Subwoofer
    600 Watts RMS
    Available in Dual 4 Ohm and Dual 2 Ohm
    Dual 2 Ohm: Threatcon-2 12d2
    Dual 4 Ohm: Threatcon-2 12d4
    3" Copper 4 Layer Voice Coil
    Double Stacked 160 oz Magnet
    High Current Flat Woven Tinsel Leads
    Dual Spider Pack
    Dual Stitched Non Pressed Paper Cone-
    with Mid Excursion Foam Surround
    Enclosure Recommendations:
    Sealed: 1.0 - 1.25 ft^3
    Ported: 1.5 - 2.0 ft^3 @ 35hzSealed: 2.0 - 2.50 ft^3
    Ported: 3.0 - 4.0 ft^3 @ 35hz

    T/S Parameters:
    FS: 36.7HZ
    VAS: 40.9 DM3
    QES: .44
    QTS: .40
    BL: 16.8
    MMS: 167.7G
    SENS: 91.5 DB
    XMAX: 28 MM

    Woofer Dimensions:
    EXT DIA: 12.48"
    CUT OUT DIA: 11.18"
    MOUNT DEPTH: 5.82"




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