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    2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    This is where I need your input. About the same price for both combinations. If I'm only going to be putting 1200rms to them, which combo would perform better? (I might go to around 2000rms much later on). I would get a custom box made for whichever way I decide to go, and tune it around 35 or 36.

    Is one or the other more SQ than SPL? I'd like to have some good SQ (but also be able to get it poundin').

    Thanks for anything you have to say!

    EDIT: I'm also open to other options around $350-400.



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    get the SA12's... more cone area and more motor force = boomin

    and like i mentioned in our PM's yesterday, if you get a bass knob it'll be beyond convenient to adjust the bass to the music you're listening to



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    depends on if you want to save space or be a little louder..should be close in my opion



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoxStereo View Post
    get the SA12's... more cone area and more motor force = boomin

    and like i mentioned in our PM's yesterday, if you get a bass knob it'll be beyond convenient to adjust the bass to the music you're listening to
    In our PMs I mentioned the HCD3. Then I realized for the price of 2 SAs I could get an HDC4. Not that I don't trust you, I just like having more opinions.

    And I do already have a bass knob. 85% of the time it is at max. It's the type that goes in-line in the RCAs between the HU and amp. It's a PAC



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by sjv13 View Post
    In our PMs I mentioned the HCD3. Then I realized for the price of 2 SAs I could get an HDC4. Not that I don't trust you, I just like having more opinions.

    And I do already have a bass knob. 85% of the time it is at max. It's the type that goes in-line in the RCAs between the HU and amp. It's a PAC
    sorry, didn't notice you said HDC4 in this posting... just a general rule though that 2 12's will 95% of the time be louder than 1 12. but i'm open to hear other opinions as well!



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by sjv13 View Post
    In our PMs I mentioned the HCD3. Then I realized for the price of 2 SAs I could get an HDC4. Not that I don't trust you, I just like having more opinions.

    And I do already have a bass knob. 85% of the time it is at max. It's the type that goes in-line in the RCAs between the HU and amp. It's a PAC
    any of the guys will tell u that u will need a lot more than 1200 watts with a four inch coil get the two sa I have had the hdc3 and the sa the sundowns are more musical on less power



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by brandonkain82 View Post
    any of the guys will tell u that u will need a lot more than 1200 watts with a four inch coil get the two sa I have had the hdc3 and the sa the sundowns are more musical on less power
    Thanks. I was wondering about that too.



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by brandonkain82 View Post
    any of the guys will tell u that u will need a lot more than 1200 watts with a four inch coil get the two sa I have had the hdc3 and the sa the sundowns are more musical on less power
    Quote Originally Posted by sjv13 View Post
    Thanks. I was wondering about that too.

    this is very true.. for a while i was running my amp at 4 ohms with the SA12's, only giving them about 400 to the pair... they came alive in my properly built enclosure even on only 400 watts, and the SQ was/is great



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Running 1200 watts would be a waste of an HDC4.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoxStereo View Post
    this is very true.. for a while i was running my amp at 4 ohms with the SA12's, only giving them about 400 to the pair... they came alive in my properly built enclosure even on only 400 watts, and the SQ was/is great
    have u guys ever heard of the death box its like a small fourth order for a ten inch sub



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chriszle View Post
    Running 1200 watts would be a waste of an HDC4.
    I was thinking I might get a bigger amp down the road when I could afford a new alt and the larger amp itself. But I agree with what you said. I'd probably go for the SAs though and I'm sure that they will be able to give me what I'm looking for. Plus, I could always slap a larger amp on them too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandonkain82 View Post
    have u guys ever heard of the death box its like a small fourth order for a ten inch sub
    this isn't really the right place to ask about that.



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    1 hdc4 15. You'll have to wire @.5 regardless.



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelfromva View Post
    1 hdc4 15. You'll have to wire @.5 regardless.
    I'm not interested in a 15"



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by sjv13 View Post
    I'm not interested in a 15"
    Box would be roughly same size as 2 SA 12 box. And potentially louder if done right.



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    Re: 2 SA-12s or 1 AQ HDC4?

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelfromva View Post
    Box would be roughly same size as 2 SA 12 box. And potentially louder if done right.
    Wouldnt it sound "different" though?



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