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    XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Anybody that can help me with this? They are both about the same price. Going to be running two of them off a Soundstream 2000d So they'll be ran at 1 ohm. I know the XFL's have a .5" bigger coil and are rated at 1000 rms whereas the Sundowns are rated at 600 but i know both of these subs will take more than rated. Could the sundowns take 1000 rms daily? I have heard lots of good things about them both so im wondering if anyone could offer advice from experience.







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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    go with the 2 xfl's and a box from starr mountain

    buy the xfl's through @mylows10 ; for full warranty from auth retailer




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Already got the quote from him just wanted to see if anybody could talk me into the Sundowns




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    just make sure you are putting these subs in a custom enclosure and not a pre fab or you are just wasting your money




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Your amp will be fine to run the SA12's.




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Im running 2 12's in a 4.311 cube box tuned to 35 Hz that i made right now that is amazingly loud for $80 subs. I plan on running them in that.




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by eli346 View Post
    Im running 2 12's in a 4.311 cube box tuned to 35 Hz that i made right now that is amazingly loud for $80 subs. I plan on running them in that.
    My XFLs are in 4 cubes tuned to 33Hz so that box would work. They will probably sound about the same on that power, but you might as well go with the XFLs. That way you can easily get a much bigger amp in the future without having to upgrade subs again.




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    i sell both , but for the money and power handling ,i'd go xfl also




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by eli346 View Post
    Anybody that can help me with this? They are both about the same price. Going to be running two of them off a Soundstream 2000d So they'll be ran at 1 ohm. I know the XFL's have a .5" bigger coil and are rated at 1000 rms whereas the Sundowns are rated at 600 but i know both of these subs will take more than rated. Could the sundowns take 1000 rms daily? I have heard lots of good things about them both so im wondering if anyone could offer advice from experience.
    The honest truth would be this:

    SA12 and XFL12 sound exactly the same, except you can put more power to the XFL12.

    I would do 1500rms daily on the sa12 max but I'd do 2500rms daily on the the XFL.




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Hmmm now my second tough choice is do i get dvc 4 ohms and run them at 1 ohm on my current amp or do i get the dvc 2 ohms and run them on my current amp at 2 ohms until i get a second amp then run each one a 1 ohm on its own amp. Would it be an issue to run each sub on a different amp in a shared chamber box?




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    if you get dvc 4 ohm ,when you get the second amp you'll have to recone or get new subs again .something you might consider is getting d4 now ,and when ready for another amp ,try to sell what you have to get a bigger amp and new subs !!!!!




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    That's the thing that worries me about getting the dvc 4 ohms is if im not happy with them on that power i cant easily add a second amp unless its a big monoblock. With the dvc 2 ohms i could get an amp for each sub a lot easier.
    On another note how does the rms power compare to sound like lets say im running the XFL's on 1000 right at its rms compared to the SA's on 1000 so they're being run over their rms. Would that make the SA's be moving more? Or is that not how it works.




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by eli346 View Post
    That's the thing that worries me about getting the dvc 4 ohms is if im not happy with them on that power i cant easily add a second amp unless its a big monoblock. With the dvc 2 ohms i could get an amp for each sub a lot easier.
    On another note how does the rms power compare to sound like lets say im running the XFL's on 1000 right at its rms compared to the SA's on 1000 so they're being run over their rms. Would that make the SA's be moving more? Or is that not how it works.
    wouldn't make them move more , just would make the sa subs work harder ,and be harder on the coils as well




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    The SA's are more efficient than the XFL IMO, and with your amp either sub wont ever see over 800rms ea. if you wire to 1ohm




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    Re: XFL 12's Or Sa-12's? Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by B-Sh0t View Post
    The SA's are more efficient than the XFL IMO, and with your amp either sub wont ever see over 800rms ea. if you wire to 1ohm
    Oh i know that's why i was looking into the 2 amp idea.




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