Is this a good first 12" subwoofer setup?

[dirdybit]

Now I'm torn between the Pioneer and VVME. Both seem like they pack a punch but which will have a better quality AND loudness? I feel like the VVME probably gets pretty loud but does it really sound that great? How well do you think it transitions between notes/how deep of bass is clear? This is a tough decision, I was planning on ordering the things today but maybe I should wait. I COULD order one of these VVME's and see how it does, and if I'm not a big fan go for the Pioneer instead or vice versa - there's probably room in my budget.

[ThatChevyGuy]

Not too shabby for a 56 dollar subwoofer though... Someone should do a big ol' budget build with a bunch of these.

There's videos on YouTube of the higher power model gettin down

[ThatChevyGuy]

Now I'm torn between the Pioneer and VVME. Both seem like they pack a punch but which will have a better quality AND loudness? I feel like the VVME probably gets pretty loud but does it really sound that great? How well do you think it transitions between notes/how deep of bass is clear? This is a tough decision, I was planning on ordering the things today but maybe I should wait. I COULD order one of these VVME's and see how it does, and if I'm not a big fan go for the Pioneer instead or vice versa - there's probably room in my budget.

Those pioneer aren't known for great sq, the Vvme sounded good but I'm not an sq buff either. I would run a pair of the jf's or if you're stuck on a single 12 one of the rd higher power models
vvme ebay subwoofer! - YouTube
http://youtu.be/ZhbM2ZlGwEw

[DoesDad]

Wow the vids are insane! Gonna grab a couple of these I think...

[ThatChevyGuy]

Wow the vids are insane! Gonna grab a couple of these I think...

Just to be clear those vids are of the more expensive rd model which can be had for around $50
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-CAR-AUDIO...item416e5ab61a

I want two on about 1500w in 4 cu at 32 with lots of port

[DDtC]

Vvmes get loud but they sound like a $60 sub. Pure ****

[Why So Cereal?]

I'm gonna order a couple vvme's and see what they do with 2100w to em

[dirdybit]

So how about the Crunch PZA1500.1? Would it work well with the VVME? I ordered the VVME already so I should have that in a few days - just have to find an amplifier and the right box now. I also ordered a 4-gauge wiring kit.

[dirdybit]

Another thing - I know it might sound stupid but should I just use regular 16 gauge speaker wire between the sub and the amp?