AQ 18 or FI or ?

[PapaGeno21]

So the AQ/AB are "not" shit they are just not as good as the FI/AA?

Would ALL of these suggested subs be better than what I am currently using?

[pro-rabbit]

I've heard more than a few and have NEVER been impressed with them, especially with the stock softpart config. They sound extremely hollow, we did a direct swap with my XCON 10's in my friends ride and it sounded 20x better.

You should swing down here. I can assure you that it is simply the enclosure and not the subwoofer's fault.

[Julian]

You should swing down here. I can assure you that it is simply the enclosure and not the subwoofer's fault.

Now when we switched to better softparts it sounded better going from the stupid stiff spiders to 2 medium-hard spiders.

AQ supplies garbage softparts.

[pro-rabbit]

Now when we switched to better softparts it sounded better going from the stupid stiff spiders to 2 medium-hard spiders.

AQ supplies garbage softparts.

I never said they had the best parts, all though their newest version is pretty decent considering. All companies have pros/cons with them. If you kill an HDC 99% of the time it is user error.

However, saying they sound bad is simply not true. I have been messing around with their subs since the original HD(pre china) to the current subs. From our builds, to clients builds, to the AQ scion(when we built it) they all sounded great with no issues of "hollowness" or other lacking sound/output.

[Kangaroux]

Xcon > BL > HDC3

[PapaGeno21]

OK just got off the phone with Shawn from FI.

They are running a sale right now on a bunch of crap, but basically Fully Loaded BL 18" D1 to my door is 334.

We figured out a box for my car that while being giant, will fit.

41x20x18 Which is 7 cubes, then it needs 72 sq in of port, which puts it at 6.25 cubes inside and then tunes it to 34hz. He said that should work well. It would be sub and port upwards. Sub up port back, or both back batter the **** out of my fiberglass hatch and it just sounds god awful.

Good plan?

[pro-rabbit]

I would increase port area myself.

[Dtrom]

The IA Death Penalty is on sale for 341 right now. That is a little bit out of my price range. I am really trying to stay around 300 bucks for this.

I have a feeling the DC Audio is going to be well over 300 bucks.

Did you mean to say death row?? If the death PENALTY is on sale for $341 you better get it.

[PapaGeno21]

Yeah meant to say row. IF the DP was 341 I would already have bought it!

[nu2spl]

I would increase port area myself.

this^^^ go with 96 SQ IN of port

[Fi-brations]

I've never heard anyone say that DC make sq subs, and for sanctity of "sound quality subwoofers", none of the subs listed in this thread would be considered "sq". As far as having a flat response, low end extension, and accurate reproduction goes the main difference between most of the woofers listed will be determined by the box. Out of the ones you are considering I would focus on build quality, efficiency, and how easily they can play lower frequencies.

[PapaGeno21]

The more port area I have the more it cuts into the subs internal volume of the box though?

I am having such a hard time with this. I just cant sacrifice any more room than those dimensions. Those already put the sub like 10" from the roof of the car.

[pro-rabbit]

The more port area I have the more it cuts into the subs internal volume of the box though?

I am having such a hard time with this. I just cant sacrifice any more room than those dimensions. Those already put the sub like 10" from the roof of the car.

Like I told you in IM. I would look at doing a pair of 12s or a single 15. Using a more optimum enclosure will net better results.

[pro-rabbit]

The more port area I have the more it cuts into the subs internal volume of the box though?

I am having such a hard time with this. I just cant sacrifice any more room than those dimensions. Those already put the sub like 10" from the roof of the car.

Like I told you in IM. I would look at doing a pair of 12s or a single 15. Using a more optimum enclosure will net better results.

[PapaGeno21]

Ok an 18 is just NOT going to work for me. Talked to ProRabbit basically all day. I just am in denial about making an 18 fit. Not going to happen so I am considering just doing a GOOD 15. Do you guys think one Fully loaded BL 15" in a GOOD box will do better than my 12's?

6.22 Net
18x41x18
82 in2 of port
32.25 port length
34hz approx tuning
4.03 after port and sub displacement

Would that work well for a fully loaded BL 15 and be better than my 12's?