not tryna add insult to injury here...but to me it seems most of the reasons why kicker is bad that are listed seem to be subjective. Fairly common opinions yet opinions altogether. horrible design. horrible parts. insanely high price. thats about the most clear cut answer ive got so far. now..im a kicker guy dont get me wrong..i dont LOVE kicker by any means and honestly wouldnt consider myself a kicker guy if ive ever tried anything else..so its kinda hard for me to grasp ya know? i see alot of you saying "The L7 gets loud, but sounds like crap" "its loud, but doesnt sound good" again this is mostly subjective but isnt loud good?..u could follow that up with "not if it sounds like crap" lol i mean its all subjective to me....what exactly do you mean by "Sound Good"?? as was stated above i like some trunk rattlin and most people with L7s dont care about SQ which i know i dont...so is it that the L7 is obnoxiously loud and pisses others off? or does it not hit notes accurately? or what is it literally that doesnt sound good? I wish someone would post a video of an L7 sound and a SA 12 sound and dissect the two to determine [[By Ear]] that it sounds like crap...
whew..sorry..just never got to the bottom of why kicker is soo bad aside from price and parts..and again not tryna beat a dead horse..just want a few answers without making a new thread
Couldn't just let it die, could you.....
Well since it's back open, I'll try to explain at least a little bit.
If you're just looking for something to move air and make a presence, then you're right. The L7 will do just fine. It's not until you're looking for clear separation of notes below 50Hz and its ability to blend in with the rest of your sound stage that you'll understand the importance of SQ in a sub. Download a box-building software and look at some of the FR curves for different subs, the L7 included. Subs that perform better on an SQ end will have a flatter response.
The L7? Not so flat. Which means you have to compensate by extra EQ and some people can't afford/don't want to deal with all of that.
ohhhh so its more of the separation of notes below 50hz basically making it all sound muddied together huh? hmm never thought of that...i just thought it was massive bass..hmm i was wrong..well u explained it well and i pretty much get it now..im not left wondering..lol
is there a song that you can think of that has bass notes like u explained that the L7 doesnt separate? id like to hear an example of this muddy bass compared to accurate separation in lower bass notes..
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Sure, anything from Miles Davis' Kind of Blue for starters. With good SQ, you should actually get the sense there's a finger plucking a bass string.
Overpriced. Can barely handle rated power. Extremely enclosure picky. Can't reproduce music accurately. Just overall a bad sub for the money. I actually like kicker, but the L7 is a complete failure imo.
Why oh why is this still going on ??? L7 are crap in so many ways /thread