It really depends on what you are looking for. If you are on a tight budget DD probably isn't the best choice, unless you can find something used for reasonable price.
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It really depends on what you are looking for. If you are on a tight budget DD probably isn't the best choice, unless you can find something used for reasonable price.
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Ok thanks for the info also what do you think of Skar 12 inch?
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You will get a lot of "touchy" feedback on that driver. Mainly do to the owner and what many of the members here feel towards him.Originally Posted by Hektik
In the end the sub is ok for a budget sub.
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Sundown Sa-12 is by far the best bang for your buck in my opinion and I've owned many subs.
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I don't know where the only somewhat loud DD guy was from. We were watching the drags at an SA competition and the guy snuck in and took 1st in mod 3000+. Two 18s on 7k burped at 67hz. That doesn't impress me at all. Needless to say, all the dailys (there is a town fairly close to here that everyone runs DD and they are all quiet) never have done anything.
I'm just one person, but I would recommend a number of subs to the OP before a DD. I am by no means saying they are bad, I've just seen them under perform too many times considering the power used, and the price tag.
Stupid Loud.
MAF.COM-FEK SKAM AUDIO
American Bass makes a sturdy sub op
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, a beer in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
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JL audio e4300
Pyle pro ppa 6.5's-rear
Crescendo pwx 6.5's-front
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If we're talking bang for your buck I would put the obsidian OA-12 over the SA-12. Costs significantly less and gives you some serious performance.
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wrong place op !!!!!
pioneer avhp 4100 dvd, 2 dc lvl 4 10's custom built by Thor's hammer , ab vfl 4480
ab vfl 150.4 ,2 pc 2150 ,
cdt 6.5 es 61 im mids,cdt es 010 tweets with es 200 us x overs stinger hpm o gauge wires
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That is 100% user install error then. Look up Jeremy Smithers on youtube. Guy is running 4 15" DC Neo's off 4 DC 9k's in a BURP setup and can't even break a 159
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Loudest vehicle in the world at one time was Pioneer equipement. That doesn't equate to Pioneer being great products compared to rival companies...
Just because 1 guy is insanely loud doesn't mean the general populous is. When everything else is equal (daily vehicles done by amateurs), I've seen more companies than I can count on one hand that I would pick over DD.
EDIT: I forgot to put that I do, in fact, agree with you that the majority of the issue is operator error. However, in the real world, you can account for operator error to be present. That is why I said my above statement (now bolded).
Stupid Loud.
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stop acting like you care
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Do they even have a website?
Refs:
sefugi x2, S.DeYoung, SteveMead, chillin, rebelfromva, Got160s?, JL Audio , mclerico83, and BIGJEFF64.
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If we are going by the general populous then 99% of all products sold never get used it correctly and never achieve anything close to their best performance. Which would net an answer of...nothing is worth purchasing by those standards.
Same could go for the just because 1 guy claims they have never seen them work to what they consider their full potential.
I'm not saying they are the best out there, but I have not seen or heard of them not performing well. If they were doing anything less then what was wanted it was typically installation error in some way or another. AS it is with almost any product that gives a negative result.
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Interesting indeed. Maybe I do.....?
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