- 2010 Scion tC
- Alpine CDA-117
- JL 450/4v2 Active (Mid range, tweeters) JL 300/2v2 (Mid bass) DC 5K(Subs)
- Hertz HV 165XL
- Hertz HT28
- JL ZR800
- 2 x DD 9512i
- Singer 300 amp 15.1v bypass, 3 XS D3400s
- DD M4a and XS D3100 coming soon
- Viper 5701 with Smart Start
Why not get a BTL it would def handle the power
Coil diameter is not the sole determining factor in thermal power handling.
No speaker, in the history of speakers, has ever been blown by too little power. Ever. I don't care what your friend told you, he's a dirty liar.
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2005 Subaru Baja turbo, build in planing stages.
Thats gotta b an old link here it says you can order 4" coil on the bl. https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript
DUAL 1 | DUAL 2
Fs: 35.2 Hz | 39.8 Hz
Re: 0.7 Ohms/coil | 1.4 Ohms/coil
Qms: 4.68 | 4.72
Qes: .25 | .25
Qts: .24 | .24
Mms: 212g | 212g
Cms: 0.96mm/N | 0.96mm/N
Sd: 480cm^2 | 480cm^2
Vas: 31.2 l | 31.2 l
Spl: 89.1dB 1W/1m | 89.1dB 1W/1m
Bl: 16.6 N/A | 22.7 N/A
Xmax: 18mm | 18mm
Rms: 1000W * | 1000W *
Sealed box: N/A cuft | N/A cuft
Ported box: 1.5-2.5cuft | 1.5-2.5cuft
Sub OD: 12.500” | 12.500”
Cut ID: 11.125” | 11.125”
Mounting depth: 6.750” | 6.750”
Displacement: 0.18cuft | 0.18cuft
NOW 3" and 4" COIL OPTIONS!
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Last edited by BIGTOSH; 05-05-2011 at 11:25 AM. Reason: missed imfo
REF : sold to dbolemiss

It's all about former and coil as well as cooling.
system 1:
Car:04 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
Sub: Tc Sounds 3000 quad 15
Amp: Audio Pipe Ap1500.1
Head unit: Eclipse AVN7000
Big 3: 1/0
System 2:
Car: Gf's Pontiac G6 GT
Sub: Orion HCCA 12.4
Amp: Audio Pipe Ap3000d
I really like the Orion HCCA 12" sub the more that I look at it. The subs will perfectly match my amp since they are the same series with the same logos and colors and the sub has some serious weight to it! Weighs about the same as the RE XXX but costs less money. I'm probably gonna go that route and give Orion a shot. Their amps have never failed me so I'm hoping their speakers won't either!
Thanks for all the solid input guys. Now if I ever need to know what subs to check out again I can just refer to the list in this thread.
Headunit- Kenwood KDC-MP928
Components- 4 Alpine SPR-17LS 6.5" Type R's
Sub- 18" TC-5200
Component Amp- JL Audio 300/4
Sub Amp- Orion HCCA-D5000 at .7 ohms
Wiring- All Stinger HPM Series, Big 3
Enclosure- 3.2 cubes @ 28hz
Battery- Optima Yellow Top
Alternator- 220 amp Iraggi
References: CA.com- Digital B, mtdewelf, SBLAZER, tuckerbucket, GaresTaylan, basebalz13

system 1:
Car:04 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
Sub: Tc Sounds 3000 quad 15
Amp: Audio Pipe Ap1500.1
Head unit: Eclipse AVN7000
Big 3: 1/0
System 2:
Car: Gf's Pontiac G6 GT
Sub: Orion HCCA 12.4
Amp: Audio Pipe Ap3000d
There are woofers with 3" coils that will take that daily...
Bought from: kmanian(x2), KyleBetchtold, Rio, 05_ZX636, SoCalNoob, dave_damage
Traded with: cj407, twistedchild420
Sold to: jadon087, dvldogyut, 95saturn, many box designs...
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I do sealed, ported, t-line (consistent width), 4th and 6th order bandpasses.
I answer any audio questions sent to my email for free.
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Atomic Apxx 12 w/1078 motor or RD SHW 12" with option both have 4 " coils rated for 5k rms, but it would be much cheaper to use a nice 3" 8layer 12 unless you can find some used
My new one SPL built is gunna take 2000 daily...
Western Rep.
99 Honda CRV: (Always Changing) ___________ 79 F-150: Show Truck ________________
-Head Unit: Eclipse CD7100________________ -Head Unit: Eclipse CD7100
-Sub Stage: Sundown SD-2 8's sealed________ -Sub Stage: Looking
-Mids/Highs: Deciding_____________________ -Mids/Highs: Scan Speak & Blaupunkt
-Sub Amp: MMATS Hifi 6 channel____________ -Sub Amp: American Warrior Set (Zed Built)
-Mid Amp: ^^^ 5/6 bridged at 1 ohm_________ -Mid Amp: ^^^
Yeah I don't need the sub to handle 5k as cool as that is. The MOST I'd be throwing at it is 2500w. and If I want to do a blow through with 4 subs later on down the road that's going to require 10,000w of power! This is going to get expensive real quick lol..
Headunit- Kenwood KDC-MP928
Components- 4 Alpine SPR-17LS 6.5" Type R's
Sub- 18" TC-5200
Component Amp- JL Audio 300/4
Sub Amp- Orion HCCA-D5000 at .7 ohms
Wiring- All Stinger HPM Series, Big 3
Enclosure- 3.2 cubes @ 28hz
Battery- Optima Yellow Top
Alternator- 220 amp Iraggi
References: CA.com- Digital B, mtdewelf, SBLAZER, tuckerbucket, GaresTaylan, basebalz13
Western Rep.
99 Honda CRV: (Always Changing) ___________ 79 F-150: Show Truck ________________
-Head Unit: Eclipse CD7100________________ -Head Unit: Eclipse CD7100
-Sub Stage: Sundown SD-2 8's sealed________ -Sub Stage: Looking
-Mids/Highs: Deciding_____________________ -Mids/Highs: Scan Speak & Blaupunkt
-Sub Amp: MMATS Hifi 6 channel____________ -Sub Amp: American Warrior Set (Zed Built)
-Mid Amp: ^^^ 5/6 bridged at 1 ohm_________ -Mid Amp: ^^^
^ glad to hook ya up
no 4" 4 layer coil will take 5krms clamped.
a rms rating means that power constant for 20+ mins nonstop
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