And I hang around there a lot
Of the time. I have seen them do a lot of installs and to be honest Iv just never been that impressed with any DD. I mean they are great subs but the price is just ridiculous. I know they supposedly use special coils and whatnot but from what I have seen they aren't that spectacular. Plus the people that work there seem to put put wayy to much faith into these subs when it comes to power handling like everyone else.
Car:04 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
Sub: Tc Sounds 3000 quad 15
Amp: Audio Pipe Ap1500.1
Head unit: Eclipse AVN7000
Big 3: 1/0
Car: Gf's Pontiac G6 GT
Sub: Orion HCCA 12.4
Amp: Audio Pipe Ap3000d
now someone show me a DD/DC video....
YouTube - Atomic APXX 18" vs 220 V Wallsocket Long Version
DD never built a SPL sub. They just build better quality subwoofers with better parts. I'm not saying RD/Atomic is horrible, but I am saying DD has been on top for 15+ years and has stayed there. Other companies come and go as always. RD/Atomic has a huge return/recone rate on top of that, which is something DD does not have.
SPL boils down to the sub that works for YOUR application. Drop in tests mean nothing in that respect. If you were to rebuild your setup and make it for a 9500 or Z series you would be able to be louder then the RD if you just dropped the RDs in. I'm not saying one sub is louder then other, I'm simply saying that SPL lanes are in no way a place to say that sub A is better then sub B as that is no indication of anything except that a loud car was built around the car and product used.
I'm not blindly debating you are. I said that RD/Atomic work well, never said the didn't. You just make yourself look foolish by telling me DD won't keep up. The only point you made that is valid is price. RD/Atomic are cheaper and there are reasons for that. You are basing your whole argument off of an invalid point. SPL is as I stated before is in no way relevant to the any discussion on which is better. Each sub would/will perform well given the application is built correctly for said sub.
Sorry you can not see what is actually being said. Brand loyalty is great and I'm glad you found a company you like(Yes I have my own loyalty). However, the nature of SPL is the new hottest thing is what everyone gets each year. I don't see where I'm saying one is better then the other. I'm saying each can hold their own and can compete with each other on SPL and power handling.