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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

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    So due to low power, a single 12 or 15 would provide more spl regardless of less cone area?
    Depends


    one really good 12" sub designed for that power could out do 2 lesser 12" subs.



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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bumpin' Goalie View Post
    Efficiency and proper enclosure will play a large part. A 15 has an SA of 177, 2 12's have an SA of 226. With 2 12's I'd lean towards SSA Dcons, possibly Fi X's or the IA 187.

    With a single woofer, the options open up some more.

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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    i would do two ssa dcon 12s ported box. they will get loud, get low, and are built with SQ in mind.



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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    Quote Originally Posted by skar=dbeez View Post
    well 700 watts is very low for 2 subs... you will be happy with an sa 15 and spend the extra money on a custom box for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by skar=dbeez View Post
    no...but you only have 700 watts so your going to want to do a one sub setup
    No. How does power dictate how many subs you should have?

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    Efficiency and proper enclosure will play a large part. A 15 has an SA of 177, 2 12's have an SA of 226. With 2 12's I'd lean towards SSA Dcons, possibly Fi X's or the IA 187.

    With a single woofer, the options open up some more.

    The thing with car audio, is that there is no ONE way to accomplish your goal. There are always more options than you can think of.
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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    Having demo'd a bunch of DC subs ( lvl 2 through lvl 4 XLs) and some upper end Fi subs, I think it's between DC, Fi, and SSA based on what I've read.

    Fi X, SSA Dcon, or DC level 2s

    Any suggestions out of these three? I believe I read that the DCs have the most Xmax, so maybe I higher potential for moving more air?




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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    Quote Originally Posted by thatdude69 View Post
    Having demo'd a bunch of DC subs ( lvl 2 through lvl 4 XLs) and some upper end Fi subs, I think it's between DC, Fi, and SSA based on what I've read.

    Fi X, SSA Dcon, or DC level 2s

    Any suggestions out of these three? I believe I read that the DCs have the most Xmax, so maybe I higher potential for moving more air?
    I've liked the Dcons I've played with. Heck, they impressed me so much I still have two 10's. Very musical, and they get louder than I expected, while sounding better than I expected. For the price range and purpose, I can't think of better.



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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    2 dc levle 2's will be the loudest, dcons the most musical




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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

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    sonas is a great low power 18 inch sub, will get crazy loud with an 18, more service area then 2 12's




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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    Mach 5 ixl, great for little power.



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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    Quote Originally Posted by -01limited- View Post
    Mach 5 ixl, great for little power.
    this or level 2s..really all are great choices




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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    I'd choose IXL over level 2s.



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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

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    I'd choose IXL over level 2s.
    for more loudness, yes




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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    if your definition of sound quality is handling less power then sure level 2s. IXLs are every bit of sound quality and it doesn't hurt they can take more power.



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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    I guess the Mach 5 site is down? Because I cant find a spec sheet for the IXLs anywhere..what's the rms rating?




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    Re: 700 watts, now what subs?

    IXL-12 Dual 1 Ohm SL (high Qt - for sealed boxes)
    Fs = 29.62 Hz
    Re = 1.80 ohms[dc]
    Qt = 0.69
    Qes = 0.75
    Qms = 8.01
    Mms = 246.43 grams
    Rms = 5.727948 kg/s
    Cms = 0.000117 m/N
    Vas = 27.91 liters
    Sd= 411.87 cm^2
    Bl = 10.469828 Tm
    Lp(2.83V/1m) = 88.25 dB

    IXL-12 Dual 1 Ohm BR (low Qt - for ported boxes)
    Fs = 30.23 Hz
    Re = 1.80 ohms[dc]
    Qt = 0.42
    Qes = 0.45
    Qms = 6.24
    Mms = 201.64 grams
    Rms = 6.141663 kg/s
    Cms = 0.000137 m/N
    Vas = 32.75 liters
    Sd= 411.87 cm^2
    Bl = 12.332832 Tm
    Lp(2.83V/1m) = 91.41 dB


    IXL-12 Dual 2 Ohm SL (high Qt - for sealed boxes)
    Fs = 26.54 Hz
    Re = 3.70 ohms[dc]
    Qt = 0.68
    Qes = 0.74
    Qms = 8.58
    Mms = 193.35 grams
    Rms = 3.759525 kg/s
    Cms = 0.000186 m/N
    Vas = 44.32 liters
    Sd= 411.87 cm^2
    Bl = 12.686647 Tm
    Lp(2.83V/1m) = 85.77 dB

    IXL-12 Dual 2 Ohm BR (low Qt - for ported boxes)
    Fs = 26.54 Hz
    Re = 3.70 ohms[dc]
    Qt = 0.31
    Qes = 0.32
    Qms = 6.24
    Mms = 248.96 grams
    Rms = 6.650503 kg/s
    Cms = 0.000144 m/N
    Vas = 34.42 liters
    Sd= 411.87 cm^2
    Bl = 21.844589 Tm
    Lp(2.83V/1m) = 88.29 dB

    Run the SL units in 2 cubic feet with damping in the box. The BR can
    be used in 1.5-1.8 cubes with your choice of box tuning. I suggest
    anything from 32Hz to 35Hz. You can use the BR in lower tuned boxes as
    well if you are looking into home theater.


    the IXL-12 is $169 plus shipping. If you are in the US, factor in
    about $50 for courier shipping.

    The IXL-10 is $149, the IXL-15 is $199 and the IXL-18 is $229.



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