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    My review on these new subs by sundown audio. Box is 3cubes net with 14sq inches of port area per cube tuned to 30 hertz. Pair is seeing 1400rms and have not broken in yet.

    They sound really good, better than Hype R's and other middle range drivers. Overbuilt subs for a 600rms rating and can handle much more. They are very accurate and they sound great on all types of music.

    I love the RHCP and the sub can keep up with flea and his ludacris bass slapping sessions and the kick drum is simply amazing. Very tight and punchy but loves the lows and has an excellent response curve (off ear). No obvious peaky frequencies, maybe a little louder around the higher frequencies but the subs are not broken in and my box is only 1.5 cubes net per sub.

    Comparing to my AA havoc 18, I just took that sub out today and overall the only real difference was that the 18 has better upper frequency response (because it was sealed) and that was all, they both are very accurate and love the lows. The SA's are much louder! I cant say that they are louder than Type R's yet because they are only still breaking in but im sure that they will be as soon as I get them loosened up. The SQ is much better than Hype R's though and im 100% positive on that one.

    Subs I have listened to: DD 9500 12's and 15's , Alpine Type R, AQ HDC315, AQ SD2.5's, Rockford P3, IA DP 21's, Ascendant Audio Havoc 18 and probably others but those are the ones I can think of right now.

    For their price range they really cant be beat and I cant wait for these babies to break in!



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    I enjoy the sound of pressure

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    look it up. it has a bigger thump to it.

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    Thanks for the review



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    Re: Sundown SA 12 Review

    how would you compare them to the 12" AQ SDC2.5 SPL wise? SQ?




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    Re: Sundown SA 12 Review

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    how would you compare them to the 12" AQ SDC2.5 SPL wise? SQ?
    Better in every way, ive heard a pair of tens off a AQ 1200d and it doesnt come close, they hit lows muchh better and have better SQ



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    Re: Sundown SA 12 Review

    so you think they're louder than the SDC2.5's? I've heard a lot of people on CAF.com say the SDC2.5's are louder than Type R's in the right enclosure.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Koon View Post
    so you think they're louder than the SDC2.5's? I've heard a lot of people on CAF.com say the SDC2.5's are louder than Type R's in the right enclosure.
    Look @ the scores from the SA12's SPL they get **** loud.

    Im comparing 10's and 12's so its a little biased but the SA's are louder on the lows, depending on the box design there are tons of variables to be had. Put it this way, ive heard both and I prefer the SA's. They are both good woofers but the SA is better in my eyes.

    Buy some and check em out!



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    wow! why so mean?
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    look it up. it has a bigger thump to it.

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    Look @ the scores from the SA12's SPL they get **** loud.

    Im comparing 10's and 12's so its a little biased but the SA's are louder on the lows, depending on the box design there are tons of variables to be had. Put it this way, ive heard both and I prefer the SA's. They are both good woofers but the SA is better in my eyes.

    Buy some and check em out!
    Hmmm, I'm thinking about a pair of 12s.




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    Re: Sundown SA 12 Review

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    Hmmm, I'm thinking about a pair of 12s.
    With the presale @ 175 each I would go for it if I were you! Talk to sundownz



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    What makes you think I am trying to stir things up?

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    Not in this thread but in others the inflammatory comments and snide remarks are plainly obvious.
    You are retarded. Go back to the si threads.




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    Not overly sensitive, just certain things **** me off.
    Like people not agreeing with you? pathetic




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    Re: Sundown SA 12 Review

    im strongly considering sellin something and picking up a few of these to try myself, beastly looking lil 12s for sure



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    Re: Sundown SA 12 Review

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    You are retarded. Go back to the si threads.
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    Like people not agreeing with you? pathetic
    Your not adding anything to this thread so please take it somewhere else.



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    wow! why so mean?
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    look it up. it has a bigger thump to it.

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    Re: Sundown SA 12 Review

    Update:

    I tested the power that the pair was getting today. I used a Fluke Clamp ammeter and a Velmann O-Scope. On 62 hertz tone I was getting only 800 watts to the pair with my imp rise going to 2 ohms.

    Cliffs-MORE POWER

    Im running them @ 1ohm but a note to Jacob. Can you make these in D2?



    I enjoy the sound of pressure

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    2 Ohm speakers offer higher fidelity due to how freely the cone moves with lower wattage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Majorthump View Post
    wow! why so mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by Majorthump View Post
    look it up. it has a bigger thump to it.

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    Re: Sundown SA 12 Review

    D2 coils are not available at this time.



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