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    What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    What is better???
    Which one can deliver lower cleaner bass??
    Which one can deliver a bigger bass spectrum?

    RE AUDIO SEX12D2
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    * Dual 2 ohm Voice Coils
    * 1200 watts peak output
    * 12" competition grade subwoofer
    * 600 watts pure RMS
    * Engineered with new magnet covers that aid in cooling the voice coils while protecting the magnet
    * Flat wound voice coils
    * Qes: .49
    * Qms: 4.5
    * Qts: .44
    * Free Air Resonance -Fs: 25.1 Hz
    * Vas: 72.9 liters
    * Overall Diameter - 12.5"
    * Bolt Hole Circle - 11.75"
    * Motor Width - 6.25"
    * Motor Depth - 3.25"
    * Basket Depth - 3.25"
    * Displacement - .15 cu. ft.
    * Weight - 22 lbs.
    * One-Way, Linear Excursion -Xmax: 18 mm
    * Efficiency - 86.1 dB SPL @ 1w/m
    * DC Resistance -Re: 2.8 ohm
    * Mounting Depth - 6.5"
    * Mounting Hole Diameter - 11"
    * Dual Composite 2-piece Cone
    * Rubatek Foam Surround
    * Cast Aluminum Basket
    * Tork-Tite Terminal
    * 3" 4-layer Aluminum Voice Coil
    * FEA Optimized Motor Structure
    * Triple Stack Maganets
    * Progressive Spiders
    * Wrap around Rubber Gasket


    Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2
    ---------------------------------------------
    # Subwoofer Size: 12"
    # Subwoofer Design: Round / Circle
    # Shallow Mount Installation: No
    # Voice Coil(s): Dual (2 voice coils)
    # Impedance (per voice coil): 2 ohms
    # Peak Power Handling: 1200 watts
    # RMS Power Handling: 600 watts
    # Woofer Surround: Rubber
    # Woofer Composition: Aluminum
    # Sealed Box Volume: 1.0 - 1.5 cubic feet
    # Ported Box Volume: 1.25 - 2.25 cubic feet
    # Sensitivity: 86 dB
    # Frequency Response: 20 - 200 Hz
    # Xmax (millimeters): N/A
    # Top Mount Depth: 6-3/4"
    # Cutout Diameter: 11"
    # Recommended Enclosure Type: Ported / Vented, Sealed







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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    anyone??




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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    not a lot o love for newer rf subs here.
    If you can get the qes, qts, qms, fs, and vas
    for the T1, it may help.



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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    Quote Originally Posted by tuskilla View Post
    What is better???
    Which one can deliver lower cleaner bass??
    Which one can deliver a bigger bass spectrum?

    RE AUDIO SEX12D2
    -------------------------------
    * Dual 2 ohm Voice Coils
    * 1200 watts peak output
    * 12" competition grade subwoofer
    * 600 watts pure RMS
    * Engineered with new magnet covers that aid in cooling the voice coils while protecting the magnet
    * Flat wound voice coils
    * Qes: .49
    * Qms: 4.5
    * Qts: .44
    * Free Air Resonance -Fs: 25.1 Hz
    * Vas: 72.9 liters
    * Overall Diameter - 12.5"
    * Bolt Hole Circle - 11.75"
    * Motor Width - 6.25"
    * Motor Depth - 3.25"
    * Basket Depth - 3.25"
    * Displacement - .15 cu. ft.
    * Weight - 22 lbs.
    * One-Way, Linear Excursion -Xmax: 18 mm
    * Efficiency - 86.1 dB SPL @ 1w/m
    * DC Resistance -Re: 2.8 ohm
    * Mounting Depth - 6.5"
    * Mounting Hole Diameter - 11"
    * Dual Composite 2-piece Cone
    * Rubatek Foam Surround
    * Cast Aluminum Basket
    * Tork-Tite Terminal
    * 3" 4-layer Aluminum Voice Coil
    * FEA Optimized Motor Structure
    * Triple Stack Maganets
    * Progressive Spiders
    * Wrap around Rubber Gasket


    Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2
    ---------------------------------------------
    # Subwoofer Size: 12"
    # Subwoofer Design: Round / Circle
    # Shallow Mount Installation: No
    # Voice Coil(s): Dual (2 voice coils)
    # Impedance (per voice coil): 2 ohms
    # Peak Power Handling: 1200 watts
    # RMS Power Handling: 600 watts
    # Woofer Surround: Rubber
    # Woofer Composition: Aluminum
    # Sealed Box Volume: 1.0 - 1.5 cubic feet
    # Ported Box Volume: 1.25 - 2.25 cubic feet
    # Sensitivity: 86 dB
    # Frequency Response: 20 - 200 Hz
    # Xmax (millimeters): N/A
    # Top Mount Depth: 6-3/4"
    # Cutout Diameter: 11"
    # Recommended Enclosure Type: Ported / Vented, Sealed
    What the hell is pure RMS?



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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    I choose between the same 2 subs...well not the *** but the SE's which is the same thing and i went with the SE's... It delivers very clean low bass...im starting to think it doesnt like 50+ hz at all though (its not very loud). theyre in a sealed box BTW so its not a tuning issue lol. I liked the look of the t1's better than the SE's because of the metal cone but the new basket on the *** makes the entire sub look sick and better than the t1 IMO. Both had great excursion but the t1 seemed to reach its max excursion off less wattage. I never heard any type of struggling from either sub off of around 800RMS but once again it seemed like the t1 got to its max point and stayed the same even with the increased wattage. where as the SE excelled further with the gain of more power and never peaked out. Hope this helps!



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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    They for sure dont like 50+ hz(RE SE) on my ported 33hz box or in my 1.2cuft sealed. In myopinion that is their only downfall.


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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    Quote Originally Posted by av8ter View Post
    They for sure dont like 50+ hz(RE SE) on my ported 33hz box or in my 1.2cuft sealed. In myopinion that is their only downfall.


    Kevin
    yea it sounds clean but just doesnt have very much output



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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    how much $$$ are the RE's




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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    online roughly 175 each



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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    hell of alot cheaper than a T1......im sure they would probably sell more.




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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    more info for the rockford T1

    Description Value
    CEA-2031 Compliant
    Size 12"
    Impedance 2-Ohm x 2
    Power Handling 600 Watts RMS
    1200 Watts Max
    Voice Coil Diameter 3" anodized aluminum
    Motor Size 124 oz. double stacked
    Speaker Connector Dual 8 AWG slot load
    Fs (Hz) 31
    Re (Ohms) 3.1
    Le (mH) 2.8
    Qms 4.46
    Qes 0.53
    Qts 0.47
    Vas (Liters) 34.8
    Sd (cm2) 460
    SPL (1w/1m) 86 dB
    Xmax (mm) 14
    Woofer Displacement 0.08 cu. ft.
    (2.26 Liters)
    Cutout Diameter 10.8125 in.
    (27.46 cm)
    Mounting Depth 6.625 in.
    (16.83 cm)
    Shipping Weight 30.6 Lbs.
    (13.9 Kg.)
    Rec. Sealed Enclosure 1.25 cu. ft.
    35.4 liters
    Rec. Vented Enclosure 2.25 cu. ft.
    63.72 liters
    Vented Tuning Frequency 40 Hz




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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    Quote Originally Posted by lantz View Post
    more info for the rockford T1

    Description Value
    CEA-2031 Compliant
    Size 12"
    Impedance 2-Ohm x 2
    Power Handling 600 Watts RMS
    1200 Watts Max
    Voice Coil Diameter 3" anodized aluminum
    Motor Size 124 oz. double stacked
    Speaker Connector Dual 8 AWG slot load
    Fs (Hz) 31
    Re (Ohms) 3.1
    Le (mH) 2.8
    Qms 4.46
    Qes 0.53
    Qts 0.47
    Vas (Liters) 34.8
    Sd (cm2) 460
    SPL (1w/1m) 86 dB
    Xmax (mm) 14
    Woofer Displacement 0.08 cu. ft.
    (2.26 Liters)
    Cutout Diameter 10.8125 in.
    (27.46 cm)
    Mounting Depth 6.625 in.
    (16.83 cm)
    Shipping Weight 30.6 Lbs.
    (13.9 Kg.)
    Rec. Sealed Enclosure 1.25 cu. ft.
    35.4 liters
    Rec. Vented Enclosure 2.25 cu. ft.
    63.72 liters
    Vented Tuning Frequency 40 Hz
    Just as i thought from visual testing the T1 has a smaller X-max. I knew it peaked out while the SE keep excelling lol. Just so you know i had one of each of these woofers (12") and did a lot of (field) comparison (not paper), before i decided which one i wanted to buy to new ones of lol



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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    these are the ones i had.the T1 was pretty good too.

    T212D2

    Size 12"
    Impedance 2-Ohm x 2
    Power Handling 1000 Watts RMS
    2000 Watts Max
    Voice Coil Diameter 4" anodized aluminum
    Motor Size 304 oz. triple stacked
    Speaker Connector Dual 8 AWG slot load
    Fs (Hz) 28
    Re (Ohms) 3.2
    Le (mH) 3.9
    Qms 5.04
    Qes 0.41
    Qts 0.38
    Vas (Liters) 26.4
    Sd (cm2) 430
    SPL (1w/1m) 85 dB
    Xmax (mm) 19
    Woofer Displacement 0.151 cu. ft.
    (4.28 Liters)
    Cutout Diameter 10.8125 in.
    (27.46 cm)
    Mounting Depth 8.875 in.
    (22.54 cm)
    Shipping Weight 59.0 Lbs.
    (26.8 Kg.)
    Rec. Sealed Enclosure n/a
    Rec. Vented Enclosure 2.25 cu. ft.
    63.72 liters
    Vented Tuning Frequency 40 Hz




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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    my 15" TRF only has 15.5mm X-MAX......thats why they said SPL only...sounds like crap for daily...and i use it daily...LOL!!




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    Re: What sub is better?? RE *** 12D2 ~OR~ Rockford Fosgate Power T112D2

    Quote Originally Posted by lantz View Post
    my 15" TRF only has 15.5mm X-MAX......thats why they said SPL only...sounds like crap for daily...and i use it daily...LOL!!
    lol yea just make a very constricted frequency range. those trfs are beast though...one of the biggest mags ive EVER seen lol



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