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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    No sir they are now officially out contact your local dealer or contact sundownz for pricing..



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    Indeed - original thread is from last year when it was just a prototype

    They are out now.



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    jacob when I head down to visit a freind in NC we gotta meet up



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by SPL140.2 View Post
    jacob when I head down to visit a freind in NC we gotta meet up
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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by Derrick824 View Post
    Here's the vid of his outlaw run. Mic is in the passenger kick panel with the driver's door open. You can really see the excursion of these subs.

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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

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    Here's him do a little demoing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrick824 View Post
    Here's him do a little demoing.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y2XkUoVyHc
    ya i seen that pretty awesome setup.



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...12-review.html

    Listening review of the SA-12 in a low tuned ported box.

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    "I have had this sub for a few days now and am finally getting a chance to really give it a good listening to, mainly on my commute to and from work and this evening i finally had some time to just sit in the car and play some random tracks.

    The car is a 2008 Scion xB, the sub is in the rear cargo area in a 2cu ft ported enclosure tuned to 29hz (I will be updating my build thread with that info as well) Sub is on the drivers side facing the hatch port is on the passenger side facing the wall which was recommended to me and works VERY well.

    Build quality is outstanding, great fit and finish on all parts. Nice thick paper cone, stiff high roll foam surround, woven and tied down leads the list goes on and on, Jacob really scored on this driver. Here is a shot of the driver in the car. (pardon my dust i was short on time)



    So on to listening impressions.

    The details : sub is wired to 2 ohms off of a Sundown SAZ-1000D which is rated for 600 @ 2. Perfect Match. Right now the sub is crossed over at 80 hz and sub sonic is set to 25. I don't really listen to a lot of rap or test tone music so the ssf is more or less a fail safe just in case.

    Quick impression: The SA-12 is a GREAT sub, even at 80hz it is very easy to blend with my front stage and does not get boomy or sloppy. The transient attack is very fast. The impact is awesome when you start to put the boots to it, it has been a very long time since i have seen movement from my winshield wipers with music playing BUT it is NOT an SPL sub only! The SQ of the driver has been stellar so far, extremely musical, very quick, and can easily go from a nice subtle sq sub to a cut right through you sub on demand. And it retains it's composure very well at high volumes, I honestly have NO issues with this driver so far.

    My musical tastes are far from average and span a wide spectrum so i will list the tracks i have really paid attention to so far and will add more over the next few days.

    Sublime: What I Got (reprise)- I have always loved the bass line in this version of the song, the high and low transitions are reproduced very well with the SA-12, very effortless, tight and with great tonality.

    Jonny Lang: Lie To Me- Absolutely outstanding impact on this song, the kick drum comes through with a hard hit and great sound, the paper cone really sounds awesome on drums, it is a sound I have missed and without doubt have regained

    Lee Rocker: I'll Cry Instead- The driver really reproduced a lot of details i have been missing with the stand up bass in this song. Nice attack on the slappy bass line and the notes are heard individually, not just mushing together staying clean and sharp along with the drums, never faltering a bit.

    Eagles: Hotel California (live)- Pretty much a must play with any sub test in my opinion, and i was able to take it from a nice tonal blended sub to an absolute beast hitting me in the chest with this track, while continuing to play both drums and bass individually at all volumes, neither one overpowering the other.

    Boxenkiller - My favorite drum and bass track to play around with. Another track that i was really able to bring the beast out with and still keep the bass guitar nice and defined tonally. Drum rolls, kicks and bass guitar were all reproduced to some very high levels while not ever approaching boomy or distorted sound.

    Bob Marley: Turn Your Lights Down Low (remix)- This is the version from the Chant Down Babylon album. Drum machine and synth bass that can get nice and low and fun to play with and also some fun little transitions here and there. Reproduced very well although in my opinion the recording could have been better, the sub showed that it really likes to dig deep and stay clean.

    Bela Fleck & The Flecktones: Flying Saucer Dudes- The sub fell in love with this track! The drums are sort of all over the place going deep and back to regular, bass line everywhere. Overall a fun track to listen to made even more fun with the driver that this is,

    Stevie Wonder: Superstition- A truly classic song with a fun and rhythmic bass line that the SA-12 is able to reproduce flawlessly. Each note discernable from the last and never stumbles.

    Stevie Wonder: Ribbon In The Sky- Had to play this one for my girl, her absolute favorite song in the world and the SA-12 plays the stand up bass line with the subtlety that was intended, very well defined and you can feel the notes as they are played without mushing up the mix. This is one where the sub really amazed me in its ability to play music.

    Tool: Sober - Outstanding attack! I could feel every rake of the bass strings throughout the song.

    The Outlaws: Green Grass & High Tides- Very typical southern rock bass line. Fast attack throughout the frequency range reproduced effortlessly staying clean high, low and everywhere in between and hearing each note clearly. A fun listen.

    Overall I am 100% satisfied with this sub (FINALLY found one i like) and i have yet to find anything negative to say. I do not hear any motor noise from it and it does what i want when i want it to. There will be more tracks listed and impressions given as the days pass, and if any of you have some favorites then throw them out and i will do what i can to give it a listen. I also hope to be able to gather a few members from here very soon so they can give it a test as well but this sub is definitely a winner in my book."



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    Awesome review as expected, i wanna get ahold of a couple of these in the near future.



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

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    *laughs*

    Not that kind of visit I hope.



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    ***. i'll keep an eye out for the ETA.



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    oh & very nice review.. very professional. i'd expect nothing less though, that's why i are running sundown p0werz!



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    Congrats Jacob, looks to be a winner. Impressive excursion.



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    Re: Testing "SA-12" Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by J31Rob View Post
    ***. i'll keep an eye out for the ETA.
    They are currently available and shipping



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