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    25,000 watt 50" wewphur

    heheeh I dont own one you big silly billy !!

    but why doesnt someone just strap a 70 lb magnet to 50 inches of stuff and win the SPL tournaments ?


    Maybe I don't know much about physics but I think that would be totally sweet !



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    im going w/ the last part.........alot more to it than just straping a magnet to some stuff......




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    Re: 25,000 watt 50" wewphur

    Originally posted by HectorZ
    heheeh I dont own one you big silly billy !!

    but why doesnt someone just strap a 70 lb magnet to 50 inches of stuff and win the SPL tournaments ?


    Maybe I don't know much about physics but I think that would be totally sweet !
    even with that it wouldn't hit as high as you think... A single large woofer won't get as loud as can many 15" ones. That is why you don't ever see them in competitions. If they would win, then people would use them.



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    yep look at the audiobahn 34" woofer does it hold any world records i dont' think it does anyway. most common top end SPL vehicles use an array of 15"s with many and i mean MANY amps and all that good stuff. besides, someone already made a 48" woofer with 4gauge power wire as the speaker wire, i'm sure someone will post the pic on here i don't have it.

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    Originally posted by bumpin_blazer
    yep look at the audiobahn 34" woofer does it hold any world records i dont' think it does anyway. most common top end SPL vehicles use an array of 15"s with many and i mean MANY amps and all that good stuff. besides, someone already made a 48" woofer with 4gauge power wire as the speaker wire, i'm sure someone will post the pic on here i don't have it.

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    yeah if that is the one that i am thinking of, then they took the whole van just for that one large woofer, and it only hit 150-some... if i remember correctly. Whereas a van with many 15" subs can get 175.



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    hell there's a guy from oklahoma can't remember his name that is on kicker's team. he run's 4 solo X's with 64kwrms of power did like a 173 or 175 i think. it's on db drags website.

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    Steve a.k.a. ss3079: So this one lady goes, "These ignorant people who drive around blasting there music, they cant hear emergency vehicles"
    So that set me off, and I said "Well then why do they let deaf people drive?"

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    Well correct me if im wrong, but subwoofers are all to do with resonation. First off 'loudness' in DB is achieved through mainly two things. Cone size 8,10,12,15,18 etc. As well as 'throw' which is the cones movement or excursion in both directions. Now playing 40hz with a 50" sub in a box designed to resonate at 40hz is going to be most likely quite loud however, getting enough power rated in watts to move that puppy is gonna be hard. Top Exursion even with over 1000 watts is going to be minimal im guessing. Where as a 12" sub has something like 1/20 the cone area. However its max excursion is going to be much greaten than that of the 50" sub. (relative in the same box tuned to 40hz.)

    So basically reasons why it wouldn't be amazingly loud, first off too much cone area, too much air to move, not enough excursion, but it would be really really deep bass

    Oh yeah. The larger the throw a subwoofer has, the larger the amplitude of the wavelength. Which i believe simulates 'loudness'

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    Originally posted by QuadPioneer
    So basically reasons why it wouldn't be amazingly loud, first off too much cone area, too much air to move, not enough excursion, but it would be really really deep bass

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    I wouldn't sleep in class but i got this teacher with a really strong english accent and its just hurt to hear his voice
    Plus i just read the text book




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    there is MUCH MUCH MUCH more to do with how "loud" a driver gets than just simply the excursion. you have to look at the guts of the thing to really know how well it will perform along with t/s perameters. now yes it is true a woofer with a larger cone of like 48" like that one has will have an extremly low efficiency compared to a very efficience woofer of say 10",12", or 15". cone size has relatively nothing to do with how loud as in db a sub can get depending on the build and make-up of it. take nathonn munson and his civic for example he hit a higher db than that of people with 5 15"s. there is MUCH more in how much db your car will produce other than sheer cone area and power going into the thing. the best example i have is of the Power Accoustic Mojo, that thing is a beast but it takes some SEIOURS power to work it to it's potential due to the fact of how inefficient it is. with all that said i have one simple question for quad pioneer and bonusbobo, what does it matter what grade your in and what classes you take??

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    Steve a.k.a. ss3079: So this one lady goes, "These ignorant people who drive around blasting there music, they cant hear emergency vehicles"
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    You talking about Richard Clarks sub? Its 60" here is a few picture
    http://www.angelfire.com/empire2/jes...chardclark.htm



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    Originally posted by bumpin_blazer
    cone size has relatively nothing to do with how loud as in db a sub can get depending on the build and make-up of it

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    so you're saying a cone that pushes more air may be quieter than a cone does pushes half as much, depending on the "build and make-up of it"? Hm... Pushing air = pressure = loudness. Hm... Pushing less air = less pressure = less loudness...

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    well like blazer said, look at nate munson, 169.8 with a single 10 dd...box design plays a huge part....




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    Originally posted by taylor
    well like blazer said, look at nate munson, 169.8 with a single 10 dd...box design plays a huge part....
    of course it does, without a doubt. But what I'm saying is, a 10 with higher excursion than that single 10 DD would be louder, wouldn't it? Assuming the box and everything were not mechanically hurting the driver or hindering its sound.



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    my guess would be yes....supose both were made for the same box with same space requirements but one had higher excursion i suppose it would be a bit louder....with the same power too....,




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