I've mostly been more street beatin SPL oriented with my setups...but while waiting for my 18" MT to get reconed, I played around with a 12" SE. I gotta say, I can get used to this. Right now it's in a 2.5 cube @ 30hz enclosure with roughly 600 watts and I love it. It has the ability to rattle shyt pretty good, yet blend in with my components and sound good doing it. I would definitely recommend an SE for anyone lookin for some serious SQL...it's got me even thinkin about tradin in the MT for a 3 12" or 2 15" SE setup???? Just my 2 cents...