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    TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

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    15" TC-1000 single 4ohm

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    This is in great used condition with some light marks on the cone. A true unicorn among TC products, ultra rare and ultra SQ. Hard to find and very highly sought after driver. Dead silent suspension and awesome output capability. Thrives on very little power and easily absorbs more serious power. Check out the specs below. This is a sound-quality-first driver, meant for lower power and larger enclosures. Please don't buy this if you want something to piss pound, lol. Works well in sealed or vented enclosures.

    Specs:

    Fs - 15.6hz
    Qts - .346
    Qes - .381
    Qms - 3.82
    Sd - 320mm dia.
    Vas - 393l
    Bl - 15.01Tm
    Mms - 283g
    Cms - 433um/N
    SPL - 87.8dB

    The TC-1000 is the ideal driver for anyone looking for powerful clean bass with superb quality for either the home or mobile environment. With a standard 135 ounce magnet structure, 2" wide all aluminum 4 layer voice coil, and over 2" of highly linear excursion, this driver simply obliterates the competition. Its innate low distortion quality makes it seemly intended for high fidelity applications, but because of its high efficiency, impressive power handling and class leading displacement, the TC-1000 simply embarrasses retail SPL drivers with motors half its size! It can handle 400 watts of continuous power, but don’t be afraid to feed it 1000 clean watts as the voice coil will harness that power and deliver surprising sound pressure levels.

    Advanced FEA Motor System
    • Double stacked 1" tall ferrite magnets and bored T-yoke for long throw
    • 135oz top grade magnet structure
    • Anti-flux modulation copper shorting ring to lower distortion
    • Low carbon steel used for the gap plate and t-yoke
    • Pole vent for lower distortion and cooling capabilities.


    Advanced high excursion soft part system


    • High excursion 8.0" linear roll poly-cotton spider
    • Intergraded woven leads to prevent lead-slap
    • 2" diameter, 4-layer aluminum wire voice coil with an anodized aluminum former
    • Single or dual 3.7Ω (4 ohm nominal) voice coil configuration
    • Lightweight brushed and powder coated aluminum cone
    • 1" wide long throw, highly durable NBR surround
    • High quality thermal flexible epoxies to ensure longevity

    Performance

    • Effective motor force of 60 Newtons2 per watt (BL2/Re)
    • 400 watts continuous power (1200 watts peak)
    • 24mm BL XMax (voice coil, one-way)
    • 37mm XMech (mechanically limited, one-way)


    Price:

    $300 shipped, CONUS.


    Shipping and Miscellaneous Item Information:

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    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    Jeeeebus this would probably make an awesome home theater sub in a nice large box




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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    Quote Originally Posted by cfox10 View Post
    Jeeeebus this would probably make an awesome home theater sub in a nice large box
    Indeed, on the HT end of things I would go with something like 9+ cubic feet, tuned to 16Hz. In the vehicle, I would probably go with 3 cubes sealed.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    Indeed, on the HT end of things I would go with something like 9+ cubic feet, tuned to 16Hz. In the vehicle, I would probably go with 3 cubes sealed.
    How well does this driver play into the mid 40's and 50's when sealed? Or would it be necessary to pair it with a good set of midbass that can dig real low?




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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    Quote Originally Posted by cfox10 View Post
    How well does this driver play into the mid 40's and 50's when sealed? Or would it be necessary to pair it with a good set of midbass that can dig real low?
    If you go with high power in a small sealed enclosure (like 2.5 cu.ft), the presentation can be pretty punchy, but not like a TC9 15" would be with its higher motor force. I would definitely make sure your midbass can meet this beauty half way.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    I have a great sealed enclosure for home theater that this would do very well in.

    Fantastic driver! I see you're cleaning out the closet bud.




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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno333 View Post
    I have a great sealed enclosure for home theater that this would do very well in.

    Fantastic driver! I see you're cleaning out the closet bud.
    Indeed, one of the best sounding 15" drivers ever. Sounds eerily similar to the LMS4000 the way it digs so deep and stays clean.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    Would this work in an approaching IB setup; trunk is roughly 14 cu ft give or take a cu ft.....?

    Thanks!



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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    Quote Originally Posted by joeybutts View Post
    Would this work in an approaching IB setup; trunk is roughly 14 cu ft give or take a cu ft.....?

    Thanks!
    It's not perfectly suited for that due to the lower Q and soft suspension but you could most certainly do it. I would just be very careful with power/excursion, as well as low frequency shaping with regards to low pass AND high pass. Meaning, you could apply a bit more power if you decide to run a subsonic filter but only up to a point. And you could flatten the overall response to compensate for the low Qts by crossing at a lower freqency but at a gentler slope when handing off to the midbass.

    Simple answer is yes, if it's a low power setup. A few hundred watts.

    Consequently, the Vas figure is right at 14 cubic feet.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeybutts View Post
    Would this work in an approaching IB setup; trunk is roughly 14 cu ft give or take a cu ft.....?

    Thanks!
    Would be awesome to set everything up like IB, then build a resistive membrane behind it. Best of both worlds, variable-sized enlcosure behavior without the enclosure sound (or size).



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

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    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    Upperz please.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    This thing is devastating with low frequencies and blends seamlessly with your front stage. Velvety smooth.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    thats quite a low Q driver. id try 2.25 cubes with a PR tuned around 28.. ill bet you money it sounds amazing



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    Re: TC Sounds 15" TC-1000

    $275 shipped!



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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