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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Trade me for my mass 2012 !



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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by my_stealth21 View Post
    Trade me for my mass 2012 !
    If I didn't have a handful of underhung drivers already, I would have.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

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    $235 shipped for a very limited time!
    Found the money I needed, so the discounted price is gone.

    Back to $255 shipped.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    great price regardless! bump for a fellow tc/sql lover!




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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by iLLsT0LZ View Post
    great price regardless! bump for a fellow tc/sql lover!
    Thanks. I thought so, too. I was eyeballing the Ultra as well.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Man, I want this thing. Let me see what I can sell. Lol.
    How well would this perform on about 1000 watts RMS? Would be ran on a MMATS 2000.1.



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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Grimy_One View Post
    Man, I want this thing. Let me see what I can sell. Lol.
    How well would this perform on about 1000 watts RMS? Would be ran on a MMATS 2000.1.
    1k is no problem.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Up top.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Bumperz.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    This is a great sub! I still have 2 and i love them. Someone needs to get this thing




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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by snakeye View Post
    This is a great sub! I still have 2 and i love them. Someone needs to get this thing
    Thank you, Sir!



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Upperz.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    I hear you, it's a common concern with 4ohm drivers - fear of not being able to power it. FWIW, I currently I run a single sealed 10" 4ohm LMS, which is horribly innefficient, with only 600-800w and it is more than enough to come way out of balance with my Anarchy front stage and that is pretty powerful on it's own. This 12" with that same power and a vented enclosure would be gobs louder than my single sealed 10".

    This would do fine with as little as 500-600w as long as it was a larger vented alignment, output would be very respectable and would sound wonderful. But it would easily be able to take twice that and turn it into more output.
    How much larger of an enclosure?
    Have a sundown 2500 v1 I believe it's rated 600@ 4 ohms...
    Box is 2 cubes ported @32.



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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    Quote Originally Posted by ™Caveman View Post
    How much larger of an enclosure?
    Have a sundown 2500 v1 I believe it's rated 600@ 4 ohms...
    Box is 2 cubes ported @32.
    2 @ 32hz would sound great.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: 12" TC9 Prototype

    I want this but just cannot spend the cash right now I only have $208 in paypal at the moment.




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