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    Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    Item(s) for Sale:

    TC2000 12" Pair - D4 with tall surrounds.


    Item(s) Description/Condition:

    Only selling these as a pair, and for a limited time. They are flawless, save for a slightly loose terminal on one of them. They are 100% in every regard, no scratches or dents on the cones. Brutal low frequency capabilities with very low distortion. Pictures show one but I have a pair. See link for lots of info.

    TC Sounds (TC-2000)


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    $500 shipped, CONUS.


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    CONUS only, please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.




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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    Are they d4 or d3 and how much power is recommended?



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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    Are they d4 or d3 and how much power is recommended?
    TC-12 OEM For $195 Shipped - AudioJunkies

    If you take a look at the link above for the OEM 12, you'll see that is is described as a single nominal 4 ohm but look at the Re (DCR), it is 3.11 ohm. DCR is always less than the nominal value. It's the same for these, they are D4. The DCR is 3.11 ohm/coil.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    TC-12 OEM For $195 Shipped - AudioJunkies

    If you take a look at the link above for the OEM 12, you'll see that is is described as a single 4 ohm but look at the Re (nominal DCR), it is 3.11 ohm. DCR is always less than the nominal value. It's the same for these, they are D4. The DCR is 3.11 ohm/coil.
    Ok thats what I figured but what kinda power is needed for these?



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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    Ok thats what I figured but what kinda power is needed for these?
    Power would widely vary depending on application but check out the link I provided, lots of good info in there.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    Power would widely vary depending on application but check out the link I provided, lots of good info in there.
    The link provides everything but a rms rating and in 2 cubes tuned to 32hz im gonna guess 1000w would be fine for 1



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    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    The link provides everything but a rms rating and in 2 cubes tuned to 32hz im gonna guess 1000w would be fine for 1
    Oh yeah, 1k is a walk in the park. I thought it listed 700-2500w in there somewhere and that would cover dynamic range in music. Tones would be a different story, of course.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaonzo View Post
    Oh yeah, 1k is a walk in the park. I thought it listed 700-2500w in there somewhere and that would cover dynamic range in music. Tones would be a different story, of course.
    You where right I skipped right over that to the t/s specs and enclosure recs



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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    You where right I skipped right over that to the t/s specs and enclosure recs
    Yep, there you go.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    trades?



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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbummpa104 View Post
    trades?
    No thank you, trying to fund another purchase.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    I ran a pair of 15" tc2K's for a while. They're really nice subs. I ran them on 3K most of the time (7K for a bit which they won't hold for long) and sold them to a friend who has been running the pair off AQ 3500.1 for a few years now. At 3K to the pair you have plenty of warning (smell) to turn them down.




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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    beautiful woofers man! Always the highest quality, love seeing that!




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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    Very nice. Immaculate condition is always a plus!



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    Re: Mint Pair of 12" TC2000

    Thanks for the input, guys!



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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