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    TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

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    D4 Audiomobile MASS 2012


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    Used. Has exchanged hands a few times so it has marks and oxidization that were beyond my control, but it was NOT abused. Spiders are still lovely. I wish it were new but it still presents well. Operation is flawless and stunning. It still serves as one of THE drivers to use as a reference for what a subwoofer is supposed to sound like. Efficient and powerful. Sealed is the normal application but don't be afraid to use it in a vented application, tuned low. Murders the lows, as they say. Frightening on occasion.

    Fs: 23.6 Hz
    Qms: 6.13
    Qes: 0.43
    Qts: 0.40
    Vas: 2.8 cubic feet
    Re: 1.58 ohms
    BL: 19.8
    Le: .50 mh
    Xmax: 20 mm
    Sensitivity: 89.6 dB (with 1-watt input measured at 1 meter)


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    $235 shipped, CONUS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.




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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    what kind of an rms rating would you give it?



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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    It'll take every bit of 1k, just make sure it's clean power.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    Underhung!



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    That looks familiar. Wazzup amigo?



    'some ppl are just STUPID. i am not perfect or know everything. the main reason i called you a moron is due to the fact that YOU yourself have took it upon your self to talk this dudes sub worth up and trying to prove to ppl with it is in fact worth.'

    ...Well said.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    Quote Originally Posted by NSTALN View Post
    That looks familiar. Wazzup amigo?
    This guy, right here. Very solid and very well trusted member of these boards. Thanks for the delivery, my man. Looking forward to the next.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    Glad it got there alright. If this doesn't sell...perhaps it can come back to me as partial for the next delivery(?). It's an addiction.

    To would-be buyers: This man is solid as a rock and his items are excellent.



    'some ppl are just STUPID. i am not perfect or know everything. the main reason i called you a moron is due to the fact that YOU yourself have took it upon your self to talk this dudes sub worth up and trying to prove to ppl with it is in fact worth.'

    ...Well said.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    Ha, I love it. You're as addicted as I am. We'll see what pans out, good Sir!



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    In that case...NOBODY BUY THIS


    ...just kidding, excellent sub.



    'some ppl are just STUPID. i am not perfect or know everything. the main reason i called you a moron is due to the fact that YOU yourself have took it upon your self to talk this dudes sub worth up and trying to prove to ppl with it is in fact worth.'

    ...Well said.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    Friday!



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    I got two of these at a pawn shop for $80 cuz they were no name subs a few years ago =)




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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    Tospide.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    SOLD

    Thanks, guys.



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    BOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Just when I start thinking about buying this its gone




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    Re: TC Sounds / Audiomobile MASS 12" D4

    Quote Originally Posted by Spooney View Post
    BOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Just when I start thinking about buying this its gone
    Broski, buy the EVO-R!



    Quote Originally Posted by audioholic View Post
    Saying "clipping doesn't kill speakers" is a half-truth at best. Technically no, clipping itself does not hurt the speaker. But in clipping your amp, you can easily create a situation that WILL kill the speaker. Was the squared waveform the DIRECT cause of the failure? No. In the end, the answer is, always has been, and can only be... heat kills speakers. BUT, clipping increases heat generation, sometimes by a drastic amount. So to start a thread simply to state that clipping does not hurt speakers is, again, a half-truth at best.

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