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    Speaker options

    Option 1)
    NVX 6.5 Component

    Option 2)
    JBL GTO609 Component

    Does anyone have experience with these two? I'm looking at getting a set for my front as the stock scion XB speakers are blah. I can't stand scratchy treble.







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    Re: Speaker options

    The JBL have a nice reputation built for them.

    Midbass will require a proper install with proper door treatments but if you are ok with letting a sub cover lower midbass you can skimp a little though it's not really recommended



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    Re: Speaker options

    Quote Originally Posted by kgcolby View Post
    Option 1)
    NVX 6.5 Component

    Option 2)
    JBL GTO609 Component

    Does anyone have experience with these two? I'm looking at getting a set for my front as the stock scion XB speakers are blah. I can't stand scratchy treble.
    I have no experience with the NVX but the JBL I do. Not that exact same set but rather the JBL GTO608C's and matching coaxials. winkychevelle is 100% spot on about the midbass as it was a struggle to get decent midbass. They were a hair louder than my current Kenwood eXcelons with the same amp, most likely due to the lower impedance and the treble was a bit harsher but tolerable. I'd recommend them (JBL) to a friend.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ThxOne View Post
    I have no experience with the NVX but the JBL I do. Not that exact same set but rather the JBL GTO608C's and matching coaxials. winkychevelle is 100% spot on about the midbass as it was a struggle to get decent midbass. They were a hair louder than my current Kenwood eXcelons with the same amp, most likely due to the lower impedance and the treble was a bit harsher but tolerable. I'd recommend them (JBL) to a friend.
    I've always been a huge fan of JBL since the power series 10 ish years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    The JBL have a nice reputation built for them.

    Midbass will require a proper install with proper door treatments but if you are ok with letting a sub cover lower midbass you can skimp a little though it's not really recommended
    I would most likely prep the door perfectly first as I don't think I'll be getting a sub any time soon. I plan on putting sound barrier inside the doors + foam ring around the speaker to prevent vibrations.
    I noticed that they don't offer mid woofers only in the matching line. Would it be weird to buy two sets of the components and not use the tweeters in the back set? or should I just get a 2way coax for more and call it a day.




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    Re: Speaker options

    Quote Originally Posted by kgcolby View Post
    I've always been a huge fan of JBL since the power series 10 ish years ago.



    I would most likely prep the door perfectly first as I don't think I'll be getting a sub any time soon. I plan on putting sound barrier inside the doors + foam ring around the speaker to prevent vibrations.
    I noticed that they don't offer mid woofers only in the matching line. Would it be weird to buy two sets of the components and not use the tweeters in the back set? or should I just get a 2way coax for more and call it a day.
    I run coaxials for simplicity on my rear channels of my amp and their volume is just about half of the volume of the front components, if that. They are just for rear ambient fill. It wouldn't be weird to run two component sets... it can sound pretty good. I'd run the tweeters.



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    Re: Speaker options

    I wonder why Sonic says that the GTO609 will not fit. 6.5" mid +tweeter... maybe the depth? or should I ignore that suggested sizing?




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    Re: Speaker options

    Quote Originally Posted by kgcolby View Post
    I've always been a huge fan of JBL since the power series 10 ish years ago.



    I would most likely prep the door perfectly first as I don't think I'll be getting a sub any time soon. I plan on putting sound barrier inside the doors + foam ring around the speaker to prevent vibrations.
    I noticed that they don't offer mid woofers only in the matching line. Would it be weird to buy two sets of the components and not use the tweeters in the back set? or should I just get a 2way coax for more and call it a day.
    Please do look into door treatments a little more.

    Look at keephopealive's build logs on the site he is an acoustical engineer and has a detailed build log on proper sound deadening and isolation.

    Without proper door treatment u won't be doing the drivers justice



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    Re: Speaker options

    I have had bad luck with JBL speakers, just my opinion. However they are $80 components, how can you complain about their sound? Lol




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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    I have had bad luck with JBL speakers, just my opinion. However they are $80 components, how can you complain about their sound? Lol
    Never used their car speakers only in-home and car Sub/Amp. Sounded better then anything else at Frys other then the $140 infinity

    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    Please do look into door treatments a little more.

    Look at keephopealive's build logs on the site he is an acoustical engineer and has a detailed build log on proper sound deadening and isolation.

    Without proper door treatment u won't be doing the drivers justice
    Thank you for the info!




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    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    Please do look into door treatments a little more.

    Look at keephopealive's build logs on the site he is an acoustical engineer and has a detailed build log on proper sound deadening and isolation.

    Without proper door treatment u won't be doing the drivers justice
    I'm reading his article.. Why doesn't he fill the whole door and only partial pieces everywhere? Photobucket




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    Quote Originally Posted by kgcolby View Post
    I'm reading his article.. Why doesn't he fill the whole door and only partial pieces everywhere? Photobucket
    Sometimes it comes down to access and ease of install. It may hard to get the full in those particular holes or it may interfere with window track and wiring.

    General idea is to fo as much as possible and experiment.

    The main thing with mid bass is sealing the doors so they act like and enclosure and sealing the front of the speaker to the door planner so you don't lose output by trapping the waves inside the panel or transferring them to the panel.

    The full simply absorbs high frequencies and cleans up the midrange and lower high range.

    If you ever fell as though the tweeters are too bright try throwing a fleece blanket on the dash this will help absorb reflecting waves. If it helps for long term buy a dash mat it will protect the dash and help the sound system in most cases



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    Quote Originally Posted by winkychevelle View Post
    Sometimes it comes down to access and ease of install. It may hard to get the full in those particular holes or it may interfere with window track and wiring.

    General idea is to fo as much as possible and experiment.

    The main thing with mid bass is sealing the doors so they act like and enclosure and sealing the front of the speaker to the door planner so you don't lose output by trapping the waves inside the panel or transferring them to the panel.

    The full simply absorbs high frequencies and cleans up the midrange and lower high range.

    If you ever fell as though the tweeters are too bright try throwing a fleece blanket on the dash this will help absorb reflecting waves. If it helps for long term buy a dash mat it will protect the dash and help the sound system in most cases
    Got it thank you.




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