i just received these speakers. bought from ebay, from a highly rated seller from USA. paid market price for them. i used the forums and hertz website so verify if they are real or not. i would say from all the pictuers i compared to, that they are real. only thing is on the box, mid, tweeter and crossover all the serial numbers are missing. on the box i feel the sticky glue residue on it, like there was a sticker there and it was taken off. on the crossover the sticker on the back is cut off where the serial number was. the tweeter has nothing attached to the wire. i am waiting on a reply from the seller as we speak. no manual was included either.