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    Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Ok guys, here is where I am a bit confused. I am going to try and keep this short and sweet without writing a book.

    I have 4 sets of component speakers. Each in their own door. I have a 4 channel amp that powers each set.

    For you people running say the FT1 super tweets and then lets go ith the PWX speakers for the mids, I don't understand how that works.

    Are the tweets on their own channel, and then you have two midbass speakers on the other? IF that is the case, that would only be for my front doors. What about my rears?

    Or are you guys running say the 4 channel amp to power the tweets and the mids, then you run rear doors off the deck?

    No rear doors at all?

    Just a little confused on how this is done. I am assuming you need to run the tweets on their own channel, unless you can buy a crossover box somewhere that would be like buying a component set form a company? Like you get the PWX as the mid, the FT1 as the high, and then some sort of crossover and then that all goes on one channel?

    Yeah, I am a bit lost. Just looking at the PWX's and FT1's and not sure exactly how I would incorporate all 4 doors or if I am not going to do the rears etc...



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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Depends on if you are running active or passive.

    Active, one driver location per channel. So, each side tweeter their own channel, each side mid their own channel. This would go crossover -> amp -> driver(s). If you are running two mids in each door, then you can run them on one channel. If running active, then you would need a processor somewhere. That processor's capabilities would determine if you could run rears or not.

    Passive, then you could run each side door on one channel. It would go amp -> crossover -> drivers. So here, a 4 channel would power both front and rear doors.



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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    you can run more than one speaker per channel ...im running a ppibk800.4 with 4 6.5 bridged on the rear channels and 2 tweets bridged on the front channels..u might be able to get away with running the tweets on hu power..not sure if that answered ur question fron what i got out of.it




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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Ok I believe I am running passive? The only crossovers I have are on the deck and the amp?

    For me its..

    Deck - Amp - Speakers


    So I am still confused as how would I combine the FT1 with a Mid speaker and run that on one channel?



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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Quote Originally Posted by gckless View Post
    Depends on if you are running active or passive.

    Active, one driver location per channel. So, each side tweeter their own channel, each side mid their own channel. This would go crossover -> amp -> driver(s). If you are running two mids in each door, then you can run them on one channel. If running active, then you would need a processor somewhere. That processor's capabilities would determine if you could run rears or not.

    Passive, then you could run each side door on one channel. It would go amp -> crossover -> drivers. So here, a 4 channel would power both front and rear doors.
    this ^^ i wasnt really sure what he was asking so i kept it simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaGeno21 View Post
    Ok I believe I am running passive? The only crossovers I have are on the deck and the amp?

    For me its..

    Deck - Amp - Speakers


    So I am still confused as how would I combine the FT1 with a Mid speaker and run that on one channel?
    if u have no extra crossovers thats active

    ---------- Post added at 02:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:09 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaGeno21 View Post
    Ok I believe I am running passive? The only crossovers I have are on the deck and the amp?

    For me its..

    Deck - Amp - Speakers


    So I am still confused as how would I combine the FT1 with a Mid speaker and run that on one channel?
    you cant run a mid.and tweet active on the same channel because theycneed to be crossed at different freq.




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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Double post



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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    That is where I am confused. SO I would need to run the tweets on one channel that way I can set their crossovers different than the mids. So I would run the mids on the other channel...

    SO would I do this if it was a 4 channel amp?

    Tweets on first/second channel, they would be in the front left and right doors.

    6.5" Mids in the 3rd/4th channel. They would be wired in parallel or series whatever gives me the right ohm load but there would be two 6.5's per channel so channel 3 has two of them on the left side each doing a door and same for the right side on the 4th channel?

    I am assuming I would just have to turn the gains down significantly for the 1/2 channel as to not blow the crap out of my tweets?



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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    yes u can do that or run passive or u can run the tweets on channels 1+2 and. 2 front mids on 3+4 + rears off hu power




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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaGeno21 View Post
    That is where I am confused. SO I would need to run the tweets on one channel that way I can set their crossovers different than the mids. So I would run the mids on the other channel...

    SO would I do this if it was a 4 channel amp?

    Tweets on first/second channel, they would be in the front left and right doors.

    6.5" Mids in the 3rd/4th channel. They would be wired in parallel or series whatever gives me the right ohm load but there would be two 6.5's per channel so channel 3 has two of them on the left side each doing a door and same for the right side on the 4th channel?

    I am assuming I would just have to turn the gains down significantly for the 1/2 channel as to not blow the crap out of my tweets?
    Yep, that's right. Just know how to set your gains and what your drivers/amp ratings are.


    Edit: You are active btw. Do you know where you are crossed at on each right now?



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    15inch subs can't play fast beats, they take more power and that taxes the vehicles electrical system. You will wake up and "hear" then see the light at the end of the tunnel and it will be 3 10's pounding so hard you wont even open your trunk or turn your system on because you 15's will sound sloppy & weak.
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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    if those tweets are anything like the aq supertweets thy do not need muh power to get really loud like 25-30 rms




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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Active vs. Passive: An attempt by me to explain

    read, read, read. There's a buttload of info about how to run active and what it means around this site, but start there^.



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    Quote Originally Posted by av83 View Post
    Active vs. Passive: An attempt by me to explain

    read, read, read. There's a buttload of info about how to run active and what it means around this site, but start there^.

    OK according to that I am Passive, as my amp powers my component sets but they have a crossover right before the speakers.

    So for all my doors its

    Deck --> Amp --> Crossover --> Mids/Tweets

    But I would be active if I remove that crossover and use separate mids and highs with the 4 channel amp?



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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaGeno21 View Post
    OK according to that I am Passive, as my amp powers my component sets but they have a crossover right before the speakers.

    So for all my doors its

    Deck --> Amp --> Crossover --> Mids/Tweets

    But I would be active if I remove that crossover and use separate mids and highs with the 4 channel amp?
    Not what you said before man lol. But yes, if you removed them then its active. But you don't need another set of comps, you can still use the ones you have, just without the crossover in the middle. Or you can use the 4 channel and run passive and power front and rear.



    Quote Originally Posted by ducatipaso View Post
    15inch subs can't play fast beats, they take more power and that taxes the vehicles electrical system. You will wake up and "hear" then see the light at the end of the tunnel and it will be 3 10's pounding so hard you wont even open your trunk or turn your system on because you 15's will sound sloppy & weak.
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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    nvm
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    Re: Amplifying tweets AND mids?

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaGeno21 View Post
    OK according to that I am Passive, as my amp powers my component sets but they have a crossover right before the speakers.

    So for all my doors its

    Deck --> Amp --> Crossover --> Mids/Tweets

    But I would be active if I remove that crossover and use separate mids and highs with the 4 channel amp?
    If you remove the crossover, you will need a processor, or headunit, that can provide you with a signal that is both below(for the mids) and above(for the tweeters) the crossover point desired for each.



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