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    Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    i have these comps powered by a kicker zx550.2.
    Image Dynamics CTX-6.5cs (CTX 65 CS) 6.5" CTX Component Speakers

    I just cant get any SQ out of them. Stock stereos have way better SQ. When i turn the volume high its like you cant even understand the words. I have double checked polarities and crossover/amp wiring and everything is fine. I have the mids sealed to the doors and the mid bass response actually sounds good. Tweeter are mounter slightly off-axis in the door panels. 14 gauge speaker wire ran wire ran all around except to the tweets because there was already thin 18 gauge attached to them. I have played with EQ and amp setting to no avail. Any tips? Im not an audiophile or anything but these just sound bad. Every mds/highs setup i have had sounds bad lol. I have also tried running them off a different amp, different RCA's, different grounds, and different wiring. I have a JVC arsenal HU. I know these speakers and amp isnt the best but it still is decent and i feel like i should be getting better SQ than a stock stereo setup. considering moving the tweets somewhere on axis. But yea any tips on what i should try?



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    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Do you have an equalizer?



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by falcons03079313 View Post
    Do you have an equalizer?
    No im using the crossovers that came with the component set.



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Sounds like you may be running into clipping some where. Perhaps the head unit settings?

    Could you post up what everything is set at on the head unit and amplifier?




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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-rabbit View Post
    Sounds like you may be running into clipping some where. Perhaps the head unit settings?

    Could you post up what everything is set at on the head unit and amplifier?
    You know it does sort of sound like its clipping but i figured it coudnt be. HU EQ settings (bass, treble, mid) are all flat. No loud or bass boosts settings are on. HPF is on low (100hz)Everything is normal on the HU. Amp gain is between quarter and half way up. no LPF/HPF and no bass boosts or anything like that.



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Are you using the crossover on the hu and on the amp? That could be your problem



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    and im not like maxing out HU volume either. They start sounding bad at like 25/50.



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by falcons03079313 View Post
    Are you using the crossover on the hu and on the amp? That could be your problem
    Crossover as in LPF and HPF? No. Im only using the HU HPF. its set to off on the amp.



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by stay_high View Post
    Crossover as in LPF and HPF? No. Im only using the HU HPF. its set to off on the amp.
    try turning the high pass on (on the amp) and set the xover point to 100-125hz and then attenuate the tweeters using the xover that came with them under the cover there should be settings(look for a setting that reads 0db/-3db/-6db set it to -6db this will help with harshness from the tweeters) after that adjust the eq as needed and it should sound good.



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    One other thing you could try is wiring your tweeters out of phase with the woofers/mid bass's.

    You say the mid range is good, sometimes wiring the tweeters out of phase can make the imaging better.
    How far apart are the mid bass and tweeters from each other?



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by thevic24 View Post
    One other thing you could try is wiring your tweeters out of phase with the woofers/mid bass's.

    You say the mid range is good, sometimes wiring the tweeters out of phase can make the imaging better.
    How far apart are the mid bass and tweeters from each other?
    There not even a foot apart. But you guys the problem is definitely not just bad EQ/crossover settings. I mean when i turn the volume up anywhere close to loud it almost sounds like clipping. Like terrible terrible sound quality where its hard to understand lyrics. and the tweets are not harsh at all so im not going to mess with that. Im seriously at a loss for words i have no clue what it could be. I have tried different RCA's different speaker wire, different everything. Is it possible my HU is like sending out a clipped signal or something?? Or the RCA jacks are messed up?



    Head Unit: Clarion cz702
    Mids/Highs: Front - Image Dynamic CXS
    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
    Sub: Fi Q 15 ported
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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Bought the HU and comps brand new and the kicker amp used.



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    check the resistance on them....sounds like ya fried em.



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by CHEMMINS View Post
    check the resistance on them....sounds like ya fried em.
    On the components? Nah there fine they sound great at real low levels. I just put them in last night have only played them for a bit while messing with settings and trying to get it right. Been driving around with them at really low volume levels all day but that didnt hurt anything.. There not blown



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    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by stay_high View Post
    On the components? Nah there fine they sound great at real low levels. I just put them in last night have only played them for a bit while messing with settings and trying to get it right. Been driving around with them at really low volume levels all day but that didnt hurt anything.. There not blown
    have you even tried to use the amps xovers instead of the hu's I know my hu's settings aren't on a steep enough slope and don't allow me to turn it up at all but sound awesome low, IDK just a thought.



    electrical: Optima yellow top X 2 big 3 in monster OFC 1/0g high output alt by maniac electrics
    HU: JVC AVX-77 touch screen
    Front stage: RE XXX 6.5" comps
    front stage amp: Rockford T600.2
    subs: 1 Sundown ZV4 12"
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