Closed Thread
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 43

Reload Thread: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

  1. #16
    stay_high's Avatar
    stay_high is offline CarAudio.com Elite

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Bradenton Florida
    Posts
    678
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by goingdef View Post
    have you even tried to use the amps xovers instead of the hu's I know my hu's settings aren't on a steep enough slope and don't allow me to turn it up at all but sound awesome low, IDK just a thought.
    Yes i have tried both crossovers. and no i didnt combine both of them (although i even tried this too) lol.



    Head Unit: Clarion cz702
    Mids/Highs: Front - Image Dynamic CXS
    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
    Sub: Fi Q 15 ported
    Sub amp: MB Quart onx1500.1




  2. #17
    goingdef's Avatar
    goingdef is offline CarAudio.com Veteran



    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Norfolk VA
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,833
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by stay_high View Post
    Yes i have tried both crossovers. and no i didnt combine both of them (although i even tried this too) lol.
    well IDK it sounds like you've tried everything, Wait idea! try reversing your subs phase when I inverted my 12"s my doors sounded blown everytime I turned it up it took me a minute to realize what I had done but when I reversed phase everything cleared up and sounded great again.



    electrical: Optima yellow top X 2 big 3 in monster OFC 1/0g high output alt by maniac electrics
    HU: JVC AVX-77 touch screen
    Front stage: RE XXX 6.5" comps
    front stage amp: Rockford T600.2
    subs: 1 Sundown ZV4 12"
    sub amp: Rockford T2500.1BDCP
    Enclosure: ported (by JayDubb757 )

  3. #18
    stay_high's Avatar
    stay_high is offline CarAudio.com Elite

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Bradenton Florida
    Posts
    678
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by goingdef View Post
    well IDK it sounds like you've tried everything, Wait idea! try reversing your subs phase when I inverted my 12"s my doors sounded blown everytime I turned it up it took me a minute to realize what I had done but when I reversed phase everything cleared up and sounded great again.
    REally? how would that affect speakers on a different amp? Could i just unhook the subs/amp and see how the comps sound? Would that have the same effect? But yea i know i have tried everything possible and just cant figure it out. Pisses me off when my buddies have cheap *** gear from best buy that they just tossed in their car and it is out performing my stuff thats at least half way decent and i took my time installing... Think im gona try to run some RCA's from my friends HU to my kicker amp... If it still sounds bad that would eliminate a problem with my HU



    Head Unit: Clarion cz702
    Mids/Highs: Front - Image Dynamic CXS
    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
    Sub: Fi Q 15 ported
    Sub amp: MB Quart onx1500.1

  4. #19
    stay_high's Avatar
    stay_high is offline CarAudio.com Elite

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Bradenton Florida
    Posts
    678
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by goingdef View Post
    well IDK it sounds like you've tried everything, Wait idea! try reversing your subs phase when I inverted my 12"s my doors sounded blown everytime I turned it up it took me a minute to realize what I had done but when I reversed phase everything cleared up and sounded great again.
    By reversing phase you mean just hooking up neg wire to pos terminal and pos wire to neg terminal correct?



    Head Unit: Clarion cz702
    Mids/Highs: Front - Image Dynamic CXS
    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
    Sub: Fi Q 15 ported
    Sub amp: MB Quart onx1500.1

  5. #20
    goingdef's Avatar
    goingdef is offline CarAudio.com Veteran



    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Norfolk VA
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,833
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by stay_high View Post
    By reversing phase you mean just hooking up neg wire to pos terminal and pos wire to neg terminal correct?
    yep thats what I mean and as far as how it effects it; does you windshield flex? If so then when your subs pressurize the cabin and your door speakers attempt to fight them in the opposite direction they lose and the result is terrible sound!



    electrical: Optima yellow top X 2 big 3 in monster OFC 1/0g high output alt by maniac electrics
    HU: JVC AVX-77 touch screen
    Front stage: RE XXX 6.5" comps
    front stage amp: Rockford T600.2
    subs: 1 Sundown ZV4 12"
    sub amp: Rockford T2500.1BDCP
    Enclosure: ported (by JayDubb757 )

  6. #21
    stay_high's Avatar
    stay_high is offline CarAudio.com Elite

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Bradenton Florida
    Posts
    678
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by goingdef View Post
    yep thats what I mean and as far as how it effects it; does you windshield flex? If so then when your subs pressurize the cabin and your door speakers attempt to fight them in the opposite direction they lose and the result is terrible sound!
    Dude on a low note my windows get some crazy flex goin. But the thing is i have been listening to the comps with the sub lvl all the way down just to get the settings right. But how would reversing the polarity stop the flex? Just make the subs not as loud or something? I also heard once that i canot reverse polarity on my subs because the speaker wire is hooked up directly to them or somethin



    Head Unit: Clarion cz702
    Mids/Highs: Front - Image Dynamic CXS
    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
    Sub: Fi Q 15 ported
    Sub amp: MB Quart onx1500.1

  7. #22
    goingdef's Avatar
    goingdef is offline CarAudio.com Veteran



    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Norfolk VA
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,833
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by stay_high View Post
    Dude on a low note my windows get some crazy flex goin. But the thing is i have been listening to the comps with the sub lvl all the way down just to get the settings right. But how would reversing the polarity stop the flex? Just make the subs not as loud or something? I also heard once that i canot reverse polarity on my subs because the speaker wire is hooked up directly to them or somethin
    wired straight to my subs backwards! and yes it's just as loud and you won't even notice except your highs may clear up!



    electrical: Optima yellow top X 2 big 3 in monster OFC 1/0g high output alt by maniac electrics
    HU: JVC AVX-77 touch screen
    Front stage: RE XXX 6.5" comps
    front stage amp: Rockford T600.2
    subs: 1 Sundown ZV4 12"
    sub amp: Rockford T2500.1BDCP
    Enclosure: ported (by JayDubb757 )

  8. #23
    stay_high's Avatar
    stay_high is offline CarAudio.com Elite

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Bradenton Florida
    Posts
    678
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by goingdef View Post
    wired straight to my subs backwards! and yes it's just as loud and you won't even notice except your highs may clear up!
    But u switch polarities on the amp right? I dont need to mess the way the subs wires?



    Head Unit: Clarion cz702
    Mids/Highs: Front - Image Dynamic CXS
    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
    Sub: Fi Q 15 ported
    Sub amp: MB Quart onx1500.1

  9. #24
    goingdef's Avatar
    goingdef is offline CarAudio.com Veteran



    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Norfolk VA
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,833
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    right if you look the wires are red to red on the subs but look where they go into the amp the red is going to the - and the black is going to+



    electrical: Optima yellow top X 2 big 3 in monster OFC 1/0g high output alt by maniac electrics
    HU: JVC AVX-77 touch screen
    Front stage: RE XXX 6.5" comps
    front stage amp: Rockford T600.2
    subs: 1 Sundown ZV4 12"
    sub amp: Rockford T2500.1BDCP
    Enclosure: ported (by JayDubb757 )

  10. #25
    thevic24's Avatar
    thevic24 is offline my silence is deadly...



    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    right behind you
    Posts
    5,822
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Well try and use an Ipod for the source and see if it still gets crapy sounding. If it dose, then the amp my be cooked.



    Silently stalking you through glass....

  11. #26
    pickup1's Avatar
    pickup1 is online now Audiosystem,Dynaudio...



    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Roanoke,TX
    Age
    49
    Posts
    7,622
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    19
    Mentioned
    29 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Or bypass the amp and see if that works..




  12. #27
    Exist_ential's Avatar
    Exist_ential is offline CarAudio.com Elite



    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Southwest PA
    Age
    34
    Posts
    772
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    14 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    im no guru (or SQ guy at all) but goingdef's suggestion makes total sense.

    if you are getting windshield flex from your sub that means they are pushing all the pressure to the front of the cabin, conversely the mids/tweets are doing the exact same thing at the exact same time but are pushing towards the sub (in a sense).

    If you have enough pressure in the cabin to flex the windshield then you have enough pressure to keep the cones on the mids/tweets from moving properly. by switching phase on your subs they will be pressurizing the cabin at the exact OPPOSITE time as the mids/tweets, therefore allowing the mids/tweets to time to move to create the vibrations needed to produce sound.

    i would think an easy test for this (if you dont want to mess with the sub wiring right away) would be A. turn of the sub completely or B. open all the doors to equalize cabin pressure. If during either (or both) of these tests your mids/tweets sound like they should then goingdef's suggestion is the proper fix.



    HU-- Jensen vm9224bt double din
    Sub -- T3 TSS custom built by Corey Dean
    Amp -- American Bass XD3000

    refs: mylows10, princ3cmo, cthedinger, cjwoods, nuboot, evilsaint, skaraudio x2, brodeisel, omegabunny x2, Louisiana_CRX

    if i helped you out please remember to click thanks.

  13. #28
    stay_high's Avatar
    stay_high is offline CarAudio.com Elite

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Bradenton Florida
    Posts
    678
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Exist_ential View Post
    im no guru (or SQ guy at all) but goingdef's suggestion makes total sense.

    if you are getting windshield flex from your sub that means they are pushing all the pressure to the front of the cabin, conversely the mids/tweets are doing the exact same thing at the exact same time but are pushing towards the sub (in a sense).

    If you have enough pressure in the cabin to flex the windshield then you have enough pressure to keep the cones on the mids/tweets from moving properly. by switching phase on your subs they will be pressurizing the cabin at the exact OPPOSITE time as the mids/tweets, therefore allowing the mids/tweets to time to move to create the vibrations needed to produce sound.

    i would think an easy test for this (if you dont want to mess with the sub wiring right away) would be A. turn of the sub completely or B. open all the doors to equalize cabin pressure. If during either (or both) of these tests your mids/tweets sound like they should then goingdef's suggestion is the proper fix.
    right but i have been listenining to them without the subs on so its not that

    ---------- Post added at 11:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:12 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by pickup1 View Post
    Or bypass the amp and see if that works..
    What do you mean? Wire the speakers to the HU?



    Head Unit: Clarion cz702
    Mids/Highs: Front - Image Dynamic CXS
    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
    Sub: Fi Q 15 ported
    Sub amp: MB Quart onx1500.1

  14. #29
    stay_high's Avatar
    stay_high is offline CarAudio.com Elite

    Threadstarter


    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Bradenton Florida
    Posts
    678
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    Quote Originally Posted by thevic24 View Post
    Well try and use an Ipod for the source and see if it still gets crapy sounding. If it dose, then the amp my be cooked.
    I do this by using a Y adapter right? Like a rca to headphone jack then just straight the amp and my iphone?



    Head Unit: Clarion cz702
    Mids/Highs: Front - Image Dynamic CXS
    Mids/highs amp: PPi 900.4
    Sub: Fi Q 15 ported
    Sub amp: MB Quart onx1500.1

  15. #30
    maylar's Avatar
    maylar is offline Electrical Weenie



    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Connecticut
    Age
    62
    Posts
    3,418
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)

    Re: Cant get SQ out of these comps help!

    OP you say you have the mids sealed to the doors, but what is the install like? You using the factory mounting? Got any pics of the inside of your doors?

    Reason I ask is that some factory speaker mountings are sealed boxes (my Buick was like that), tuned to the OEM speakers and any aftermarket speaker can sound terrible. Just throwing out possibilities...



    dave
    ----------
    1999 Buick Park Ave Ultra
    Head Unit: JVC KWHDR720
    EQ: Audiocontrol EQL
    Front Stage: Hybrid Audio Technologies Imagine 5.25 mids, Morel Maximo tweets
    Sub Stage: Boston G3 10", 0.5 cu ft sealed
    Amp: PPI Phantom 900.4
    Rear Fill: Boston SE953 6X9's

Closed Thread
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. getting sq out of a l7 15
    By 4uha8ers in forum Subwoofers
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 06-26-2006, 02:33 PM
  2. What would you get out of these four comps?
    By phatrabbitzz in forum Speakers
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-08-2004, 02:20 PM
  3. cant get current out of power wire
    By lAciDl in forum Wiring, Electrical and Installation Help
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 10-15-2003, 02:50 AM
  4. Out of these HU's, What one would you get?
    By ss3079 in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 04-16-2002, 02:56 PM
  5. Out of these, which one do I get?
    By ss3079 in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-29-2002, 07:48 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may post attachments
  • You may edit your posts

1e2 Forum