coaxil vs. component

[chrisw91]

how much better quality and sound will i get out of components compared to the 6x9's in my sig?

[thaster]

100x better

[Savstyle]

100x better

thats a bit much

maybe 95x better

[schrummy]

id say at least 96X better




other words, components pown coaxial

[Ferendon]

Call it 97x, and STFU.

[chrisw91]

so, in my truck where would be the best place to mount the tweeters? in the door panels?

[microhaxo]

Huh, i dont know about you guys but the difference between old school Alpine premium 6x9 and some components like Polk or MB Quart that i heard was bass response, and the comps got louder on the treble but i would definitely not say he will hear a 97x difference. Id say that if you dont have a SUB it will sound MUCH better, but if you have a sub then the difference will be something like 25% better.


Edit:
sub- 4 RE8's in sealed enclosure wired to 2 ohms

LOL the only thing that will sound better are your vocals, any bass gained from the comps will be way drowned out.

[chrisw91]

ya, the way it is now is i cant really here the voice too good. im going for loud bass, but also sq so i can atleast here everything else

how do i go about choosing the size? should i just go with 6.5's?

[microhaxo]

Err well they have to fit your car so..

You need to put them tweets in your front stage.. Thats why you cant hear vocals very well.

[chrisw91]

well, ill need to get an adapter plate, or make one. cause right now i have the 6x9's.

[ciaonzo]

If coherency is of any value to you, a coaxial driver will always have the advantage of being as close to a point source without actually being one. The only improvement would be a single full range driver but that poses a new set of advantages/disadvantages.

The center of the tweeter should never be any further from the center of the woofer by more than a full wavelength at the crossover frequency. For example, if the crossover point is 3k that amounts to about 4.5". Depending on the particular rate of attenuation per octave you will have phase/lobing issues to deal with if you decide to make that distance greater.

Something to consider.

[chrisw91]

If coherency is of any value to you, a coaxial driver will always have the advantage of being as close to a point source without actually being one. The only improvement would be a single full range driver but that poses a new set of advantages/disadvantages.

The center of the tweeter should never be any further from the center of the woofer by more than a full wavelength at the crossover frequency. For example, if the crossover point is 3k that amounts to about 4.5". Depending on the particular rate of attenuation per octave you will have phase/lobing issues to deal with if you decide to make that distance greater.

Something to consider.

that all just went way over my head! can you elaborate? say i get components, the woofer will be in the door, where in the door panel should the tweeter be?

[IDSkoT]

Coaxials are just components with the tweeter mounted on the cone and the X-over built in...

[chrisw91]

well i knew that, i just wanted to know how much of an upgrade they would be from my 6x9's

[ciaonzo]

that all just went way over my head! can you elaborate? say i get components, the woofer will be in the door, where in the door panel should the tweeter be?

Well, I won't tell you where to put everything but let me be more clear about what I was trying to illustrate.

Let's take the ubiquitous 2khz crossover point. Sound travels at roughly 1130 feet per second.

1130/2000 = .565'

.565*12 (to get inches) = 6.78"

So roughly 6.75" is the longest distance you would want to separate these components ideally. More than that and you will begin to destroy the constructive relationship between the two.