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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

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    oh noes all 8 ohms speakers...


    they work for me

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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxPro5 View Post
    Dynaudio uses silk/fabric on every tweeter they make.

    The ring radiator design (XT19 and XT25) is really no good beyond about 15* off axis.

    This "smoothness" you're after is probably very low harmonic distortion. Read Zaph's tests and recommendations. "Smooth" means nothing to the objective-inclined shopper. A metal dome can sound "smooth" just as easy as a fabric dome.
    one of the smoothest setups i've heard was full of metal...



    how the hell could this be, though??? we all know metal domes or what not = harsh




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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

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    You drive an Image Dynamics? What year?
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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    I dont see any metal domes???



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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    my midranges have metal (aluminum) phase plugs... will that make them harsh like metal tweeters?




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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    I prefer metal tweeters to silk, but either can sound amazing.



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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    Quote Originally Posted by James Bang View Post
    my midranges have metal (aluminum) phase plugs... will that make them harsh like metal tweeters?
    Yes, any part of the speaker that is made of metal increases the HR (harshness ratio) that includes the voice coil basket everything. This is one of the TS parameters commonly left off the charts...



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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    Quote Originally Posted by James Bang View Post
    96'

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    ID builds Great reliable car. they're great all the way past 20.. khz ... i mean miles...


    230k mileage...
    Dude, you're like one hard-pounding NKOTB track from that thing collapsing into a pile of scrap metal with all those 8 ohmers you got in there.

    All a metal phase plug does is make the cone align the smooth SQ molecules better.



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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckinok View Post
    I had the aluminum dome but didnt find them harsh at all


    Dont get caught in the whole "oh noes 8ohm" BS search a little more and you will find proof that there is nothing wrong with a 8ohm speaker and that in fact they are more efficient than a 4ohm speaker. James Bang's entire front stage is all 8ohm speakers and so are my mids. Look more into speakers from madisound and parts express. I rather use raw drivers then mainstream pay for the name type speakers.
    I didnt realized 8ohm speakers were okay to use in cars. Im still a newb at certain areas, what can I say?

    Quote Originally Posted by James Bang View Post
    oh noes all 8 ohms speakers...


    they work for me

    That looks like a sick setup you have going.
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    They can't as they're 8ohm noobie

    xt25's have a very nice sound and are NOT bright at all, almost mellow unless you put a lot of power to them. Ran them for a few years and have the Alpine SPX 17's now. Both are very nice and not overly expensive.

    DIYMA also have several tweeter tests, so check them out and the Zaph one. Lots of good info...
    I will do that, thanks for the information. I used to go on DIYMA a couple of months ago, completely forgot about that forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxPro5 View Post
    Dynaudio uses silk/fabric on every tweeter they make.

    The ring radiator design (XT19 and XT25) is really no good beyond about 15* off axis.

    This "smoothness" you're after is probably very low harmonic distortion. Read Zaph's tests and recommendations. "Smooth" means nothing to the objective-inclined shopper. A metal dome can sound "smooth" just as easy as a fabric dome.
    Dyn's are probably a bit too expensive for me. The "Smoothness" I am looking for is a soft tweeter, not a bright tweeter. Im assuming a good metal tweeter wont be "harsh" because its a good tweeter, a bad/average metal tweeter would be in my books "harsh". therefore Out of all of the 10 or so metal tweeters I have heard, I did not like a single one, MAYBE the tweeter in the focal K2p's, i think the TN52's? Not sure, but that was still bright.

    A metal dome probably can sound just as smooth as a fabric dome, but from what I have heard, what I am working with probably not. Id rather just stick with a silk/fabric dome.
    Quote Originally Posted by James Bang View Post
    one of the smoothest setups i've heard was full of metal...



    how the hell could this be, though??? we all know metal domes or what not = harsh
    I would like to hear that setup, it would be interesting. Im not saying all metal tweeters are harsh, just what I have heard so far they are.



    Thanks for all the input guys, I really appreciate it.



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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    Poor fellow; i just saw a few sets of CAL-27's sell a month or 2 ago for 120$. Now THOSE were a good deal.



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    Poor fellow; i just saw a few sets of CAL-27's sell a month or 2 ago for 120$. Now THOSE were a good deal.
    FAAAAAK! Man I would have jumped on those.



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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    Looks like I will be buying these: http://www.madisound.com/catalog/pro...oducts_id=1466



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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

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    So did you install these? How do they sound?




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    Re: WHat are some nice smooth tweeters in the market today?

    I had them hooked up for about 20-30 minutes, but not mounted. I had them taped in the location where I wanted them and from what I was listening to they are worth every penny.



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    I had them hooked up for about 20-30 minutes, but not mounted. I had them taped in the location where I wanted them and from what I was listening to they are worth every penny.
    Have you heard cal 25's? How do they compare? Do they blow the cal 20's away?



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